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        02-13-2013, 10:35 PM
    I just got off the phone with my BO - he was given Quest in September, and Bimectin this time around, which I guess is an Ivermectin, which might explain the presence of these roundworms.

    I'll call my vet in the morning just to make sure what exactly I should use, and their advice on sending in samples, but I'll probably dose him with either Panacur or Strongid just to make sure to get the roundworms this time around.

    I guess this is a lesson to always check what exactly your BO is using for dewormer!

    & I do realize all horses have parasites, and he is keeping on weight/has a decent coat/etc., however, I think i'm just a little hypersensitive to his worm-load due to his previous history of not being regularly dewormed. I wouldn't be able to forgive myself if I wasn't deworming him properly and he colic'd due to a high worm count.
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        02-13-2013, 10:45 PM
    The last time I used safeguard the instructions said 25 ML for worms and 50 ml for ascarids. So you may need to double dose to get the certain type (don't double dose with quest, only a type designed to double dose). I'm not a vet but it may help?
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        02-13-2013, 11:17 PM
    If he has gone that long without proper care in his life until now, I would just bite the bullet and have the vet tube worm him. It cost me $40, but it gave me piece of mind.
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        02-13-2013, 11:30 PM
    This is why we fecal every new horse at our barn. Blind deworming, even on a schedule, just doesn't cut it. We fecal our herd every spring. Only 4 of 10 horses even needed deworming this past spring. Every fall we bring the vet in for tubal deworm, across the board. That means more than half our herd of 10 (on 12 acres) were only dewormed once in 2012. No unnecessary toxins and we knew exactly which dewormer to use to target the parasites that were found.

    I can't extol enough on a comprehensive deworming program.
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        02-14-2013, 01:27 AM
    Green Broke
    I would not do the pancur double dose. If he has a huge worm load, and gets the double dose, those worms could cause a blockage.
    I rotate.. Ivermectin (any brand ) Panacur/ Fenbendazole, and either quest or
    Strongid there is one other I use and cannogt remember the name now ;(
    I don't use the tape worm killer as I have and the Vet told me we don't have the tape worms here, so I wasted my moola.
        02-14-2013, 08:33 AM
    Green Broke
    First of all you need to realize Panacur and Panacur power pack are two very different things.

    You cannot just dose him 5 times with panacur, not the same thing as panacur power pack.

    Panacur is 25g of Fenbendazole and Panacur Power Pack is 5 doses at 57g each. VERY different. They should not have such a similar name.

    Quest should have gotten most of them unless it was not dosed properly. I will never use quest because of the chance of OD and the high rate of reactions to it as well.

    I will Power Pack every summer, this past summer my mare was full of worms and after one power pack her worm belly greatly reduced. If he has been getting dewormed all along since you got him he should not be a high risk for impaction colic if you did the power pack.
        02-14-2013, 12:50 PM
    I'M NOT A VET. But- the photo you showed is exactly what I went through over a two month period last fall with my mare. I think you're seeing pinworms (you can look at my thread here). I had the same exact problem, horse had been wormed consistently on a rotational schedule, no other horses at the barn were wormy, a fecal showed no egg count. Pinworms are not picked up on a fecal, and many of the wormers don't get them. I did a Pancur Powerpac (different than regular Panacur), and she was clear after 5 days. She just got dewormed yesterday with the rest of the barn on their schedule, and hope to keep her clear again.

    If you can get a live worm sample, wrap it in a damp towel, bring it to your vet for visual confirmation. These things crawl out of the anus in the morning and evening, so you have a good chance of plucking one out then. You'll also start to see some sticky yellowish discharge under her tail; the pinworms crawl out to lay their eggs (the yellow stuff) in early morning/late evening, and then retract back in to repeat the next day.
        02-14-2013, 01:01 PM
    When I first got my spotted saddle she had HUGE worms. The ones I found were almost a foot long. Scared me. She was really healthy looking and didnt have that wormy look or malnurished. I use the panacur power pak and only found a few dead works in her feces. We had the vet to a fecal sample and they said that even though the worms she did have were rather large there wasnt many. I forget what kind of worms it was but I will pull her vet record out tonight and let you know.
        02-26-2013, 05:37 PM
    So, update - his fecal came back completely clear of any larvae/eggs, my vet recommended to send in another sample in a couple of months before I deworm again, just to be sure, but otherwise she said there is nothing to worry about, and that the worms we witnessed were probably just the last survivors hanging on... basically. Haha

    Sidenote - I would love to deworm based on fecal samples/have a vet come out and do a tube worming, etc., however, unfortunately that isn't how my barn does it, so for now - rotational deworming is what we will work with.

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