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    09-03-2012, 01:34 AM
Looking at him kind of parked out and then rocking back to get the weight off his fronts before he oh so carefully stepped off made me think laminitis/founder too. I was going to say something about Cushings but he looks pretty smooth coated, though that's not necessarily 100% that he doesn't have it. He's a pony, he's older and he's being fed alfalfa = 3 strikes....not good.

Cold water soaks, bute and nothing but dried grass to eat and if you can bed him down in either sand or deep shavings, it might make him more comfy til the vet can confirm what we're all thinking or finds something else and we're all wrong.
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    09-03-2012, 02:11 AM
Everything aside...

I have never had a horse founder or delt with a laminitis issue. However, I did hear that if you have a horse suspected of this, the best thing you can do is try and lower the temperature of the feverish hoof at once to prevent rotation.

A farrier I used was on the phone with another client (it was an emergency, so I didn't mind) and told her to make a huge mud puddle and stand the horse in the mud. The mud will cool the hoof without having to fight with the horse to make him stand in a bucket or whatever have you. He told her to do this until either he or a vet could come out in the next couple hours.

Excuse my lack of knowledge and whatnot, I haven't experienced this first hand. However, the puddle/mud idea seems legit and it made sense to lower the hoof temp without a big fight. You might want to try it if you can. Depending on where you're at, you might not be able to get a vet in until Tuesday because of the holiday.
    09-03-2012, 02:28 AM
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    09-03-2012, 02:22 PM
Originally Posted by shaggy    
There isn't a difference founder and laminitis are the same thing.
Common misconception. You can have laminitis without founder, but not founder without initially having laminitis.

Laminitis sets the groundwork for founder, but it's not the same thing and it doesn't always mean a horse is going to founder if it's laminitic.
    09-03-2012, 02:51 PM
Thus is the early stage of laminitis and founder will come, if not treated.
Like others said, soft ground, a mudhole to stand in, and since he us quite rotund, I'd scratch any grain and the alfalfa and give soaked grass hay until a vet gets there. Alfalfa is lower in sugars than most grasshays, but is not safe when you deal with an already overweight horse, as it provides too many calories.
To soak the hay, put his portion in a tub or wheelbarrow and soak it for one hour, discard the water and feed.
Don't starve the pony please.
Laminitis is an emergency, even if only suspected.
Und try to get a hold of the owner for the okay to call a vet out immediately.
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