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the politics in showing (halter AQHA)

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        01-25-2007, 12:23 AM
    Lets stick to the topic in general, I will not continue to be attacked by you.

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        01-25-2007, 12:30 AM
    Umm.. I'm not attacking you. I want to stick to the topic but I think it's important for you to understand that I'm not attacking you.


    What is everyone's idea of an ideal halter horse? Any examples? We've discussed what we don't approve of.
        01-25-2007, 12:37 AM
    Originally Posted by Gammelquarterhorses
    ok everyone sorry about that let's continue on this subject and discuss halter horses.


    As the breeding season enters its busiest time, owners and lessees of mares and stallions should be reminded of AQHA Rule 205(c)(3), which first appeared in the 2005 AQHA Official Handbook of Rules and Regulations. That rule concerns descendants of the stallion Impresssive.

    Rule 205(c)(3) states: “Effective with foals born on or after January 1, 2007, all descendants of the stallion Impressive, AQHA registration number 0767246, shall be required to be parentage verified and HYPP tested, subject to the conditions in [Rule] 205(c)(2). Any foal testing homozygous positive for HYPP (H/H) will not be eligible for registration with AQHA.”

    YAY!!! This should prevent many horses from suffering!

    I was mistaken about the new rule in halter. They added a class called "performance halter" to not only promote the horses from being shown in a riding class, but to give horse owners a fair chance in both classes. The standard for what a halter horse should look like may change after a couple years with the performance halter class.

    This information can be found at:

    I know many of you were waiting for AQHA to email me back about the new rules.

    Do you think that the second rule will help? Or will the problem continue?
        01-25-2007, 12:51 AM
    I have temporarily locked this topic, so you all can have some time to calm down.
        01-29-2007, 11:23 PM
    Originally Posted by kristy
    Actually savethepitbulls, I found this to help:
    "Normal (N/N) offspring safely can be bred, without fear of HYPP being inherited. Selective breeding to normal (N/N) horses could entirely eliminate HYPP disease. As HYPP is inherited as a dominant condition, it can and is being spread to other breeds. It is to everyone's benefit to take the necessary steps to selectively breed HYPP out of existence before it becomes so widespread that this is impossible. "

    In my opinion, the genetic disease was carried because breeders believe they were breeding to the best at the time. It will now take very selective and careful breeding to eliminate HYPP all together, but we all know, this is close to impossible with current breeders. :( So selective, I fear even higher percentage of imbreeding as well.
    I agree. I see no problem with breeding N/N horses because there's no risk of passing on the HYPP gene. That's why I said N/H and H/H horses shouldn't be bred.
        01-30-2007, 06:01 PM
    My ideal halter horse would be a horse where you can ride them as well....I guess that's called performance halter? I find this to take care of overly bulky horses.
        02-06-2007, 05:42 PM
    Gammel, so long as they still allow N/H horses to apply, horses will still suffer, and that body type will still be winning with force in the show ring =/ Once they stop allowing N/H to show, i'll be really jazzed, then we can get back to basics with QH showing.. hopefully
        02-06-2007, 07:06 PM
    Although I do not support any type of genetic disease, bulk does not always equate to an inability to perform. I've seen some over bulked horses do quite well. I do, however, prefer my horses to be more delicate.

    The question that comes to my mind is- Is this truly different? These horses are bred for a certain purpose. Assuming no health problems are involved, is this any different from breeding a warmblood designed for dressage? Take Quarterback, for example. Look at his conformation and gaits- few horses I have seen with these gaits. Why? Genetics, precise breeding, and evolving a breed to 'perfection.' These gaits are not 'normal' and typical, but more so man made. These halter horses have been designed to have significant muscle mass for a different purpose, but is it really fair to descriminate only against the halter horse as opposed to others?

    Like I said, assuming they are in good health. Just something to think about.

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