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post #11 of 41 Old 10-30-2011, 05:46 PM Thread Starter
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today picture

Here we are togheter...lunch time..with the hoofs cut.
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post #12 of 41 Old 10-30-2011, 06:41 PM
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So sad Glad he is getting better! Keep up the good work

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post #13 of 41 Old 10-30-2011, 09:25 PM
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The treatment protocol is correct but may benefit from a few changes.

First, the casting should allow a more correct hoof/pastern angle from the fetlock joint down. This would allow more correct alignment of the proximal interphalangeal joint, the pastern joint and the distal interphalangeal joint. This change would also allow engagement of the entire hoof. The current alignment places all the animals load on the anterior portion of the foot. That position could compromise the vascular bed of the foot. Radiographs of the fetlock joint would help define the correct amount of "bend" needed in the cast.

Next, I would not cast beyond the proximal insertion point of the deep digital flexor tendon. While it is desirable to stabilize the skeletal structure from the carpus down, I would want the animal to still be able to utilize the flexor muscle group so as to avoid atrophy. the current cast (forelimbs) extends to the proximal point of the radius, preventing full use of the flexor muscle group and it's attachment to the flexor tendon (ddft).

Your farrier may have already tried, but I would start with a supportive cast that extends from the coronary to just below the carpus joint. If that does not provide enough stabilization, then the cast could be extended to include the carpus (knee).

In my view, the trick is to stabilize the tendonous connections distal to the muscles while still allowing normal muscle contraction and avoiding secondary problems with atrophy. Providing a supported "bend" at the fetlock provides additional ground support at the hoof. In the end, you're hoping for bone growth (length) to "catch up" to overly lax tendons. Increasing muscle strength (free movement) should also help.

The cast may need an internal reinforcing brace to accomplish the bend at the fetlock. A lightweight spring steel could be used. A polymer material would probably be better.

While I understand that some of the terms used may not be familiar to you, your farrier/veterinarian will understand the content and may benefit from some of the thoughts.

Best luck and, as always,
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post #14 of 41 Old 10-31-2011, 02:29 AM Thread Starter
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Thank you very very very very very much Mark. Yes many therms that you used are not familiar to me, as my english is not so advvanced,but this will not be a problem for the vet. I will present him your post and we will try to do what you said. Here in Romania as I heard ..until now the doctor that saw the little Donut did not nofront this type of problems..and is not very easy as he says, but he will try to do everything possible. ths is why I post here on this forum...hope to find someone and share me some "trikcs" .Thank you very very much and I will keep you all in touch..
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post #15 of 41 Old 10-31-2011, 02:58 AM
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Wow! Good Luck! I wish Gogosica the best. You are a very kind person to help an animal in need.
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post #16 of 41 Old 10-31-2011, 03:03 AM Thread Starter
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this is what we all do at the horse shelter. we have there 30 horses with different problems and we try to offer them a good life..as it is possible ( to old horses,or to the ill horses). but the little one is a very special case...for me because of his age,his problem and by the fact that we really love each other :)
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post #17 of 41 Old 11-01-2011, 03:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TheDonut View Post
Hy again. the farrier just came 2 days ago and shorted the hoof. at the time this picture was taken he was only 2 month and a half and he couldnt short the hoof because he was to young.
You need a better farrier then. My farrier will attend a foal from 2 days old, or earlier with vet agreement.
In the case of your mini the earlier it is delt with the better and he probably would have been called to attend by my vet as soon as the problem was noticed.

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post #18 of 41 Old 11-01-2011, 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Fatty Lumpkin View Post
This is just me, and you'll think I am the most dreadful person, but if I had a foal born like that I am afraid I'd have it put to sleep.

But that's just my take on it. I am happy that he is improving, you must be very dedicated to him.

I agree to an extent. If he's not suffering and you have the resources to care for him properly then go for it! I'm concerned that as he gets heavier it may be harder on him. As a caretaker of any animal...horse, cat, dog, mouse...whatever, our main concern should always be for the welfare of the animal. And sometimes that means making hard decisions so that the animal isnt suffering.

Looks like for now he's doing well though - so keep up the good work, the above is just something to keep in mind.
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post #19 of 41 Old 11-01-2011, 04:35 AM
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Hey while i think its very honorable of you to try to save this foal. i agree with a few other people and think maybe saving it is not actually the best thing to do, maybe putting it down is harder for you but better in the long run.

my reason being, that this foal has already had a long and painful journey and faces a even longer one. He will always face problems and require specialist care. you risk if hes put up for adoption the foal sliding into a very bad state quickly if someone dosnt undersand the true extent of the care required. But if hes stay at the shelter he will stll require long term care extra costs and take up the space of a horse that could be rehomed, or at least live a pain free life.

I have put a foal i bred down who had a similar situation it was horrible but i do not regret it.

i love all animals and have saved many fro terrible fates in my life. But being a farmer i know that natures tough and some you shouldnt save even if it is possible to. rememeber every animal like this takes the place of two healthy ones, and you will end up loving any aniaml you have a bond with
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post #20 of 41 Old 11-01-2011, 04:59 AM
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Hes very cute - hope he comes through alright
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