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post #21 of 30 Old 05-13-2013, 06:25 PM
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Their diets are in the initial post. neither is on a whole grain. Annie is on a 10% pellet feed, and abby only gets alfalfa cubes to mix her supplements in, no grains at all. Annie has a mineral block, abby has just a salt block.

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I wasn't sure as I know some feeds are a mix of pellets and grain (eg oats, corn barley - that's what I think of as grain)
Maybe you need to switch to a feed that gives a higher level of nutrition has all the vitamins and minerals already added if you feed to recommended amount but is low starch/sugar - something like Triple Crown Lite and add some non molassed sugar beet to it. You could then stop with the extra supplement you're giving them.
I would at least put a mineral block for Abby and see what she does with it.
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post #22 of 30 Old 05-14-2013, 12:44 AM
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Imo shes speaking loud and clear. There is somethibg there she needs. She is very likely trying to balance her gut. Id let her eat it even tho it seems gross to us. Its natures way of fixing things and is better than any over the counter probiotic. just make sure the doner horse is dewormwd properly.
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Haven't read all replies so sorry if I repeat... If your horse only gets her hay in 2 meals daily, perhaps going hungry is part of the problem. If she's fed an adequate *amount* then maybe putting it into a slow feeder &/or feeding 1 bisc 4 times daily would be helpful. Splitting up the hard feed & possibly changing the pellets to something healthier. Adding probiotics is another possible answer. Also if the hay/grazing is overly sugary, it's possible this is causing acidosis, which is killing gut flora.
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the t/a is 75% timothy. would maybe mixing in a different grass hay help?

she doesnt really need grain, its mostly just a base for the other stuff she gets, which is why i wasnt concerned with it being real high quality. i avoided using alfalfa cubes for her base since too much alfalfa makes her poo runny. maybe beet pulp?, Annie gets about 2 hrs turnout around 11 til 1ish, 2 is sometimes. but brian (abbys person) takes abby out to graze on the up to 12 ft tall grass in the back anywhere from 20 min to an hr a day. i would guess thats enough to make a difference in their diets, so i went out back and used my machete and chopped down about 10lbs of it and mixed it with annies hay ration last night. she kinda picked through it, at the leaves but not the stems. dunno if its significant or not.
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I'd be concerned with mineral deficiencies. What, if any, minerals do you add to her feed? Or are there minerals and salt offered free choice? Have you ever considered a ration balancer? Just throwing ideas out there, if the only minerals she gets is from a mineral block then she may need more, they typically don't add much by way of needed minerals. I give mine a few different varieties of loose minerals and loose salt as well as a plain white salt lick, all offered free choice. I always just used the mineral blocks and was surprised when I switched to loose, there was a time period of around a week where they were eating a lot of it, consumption leveled out once they were balanced again, and now they only eat it when they need it.

My gelding is an air fern and I still give him his ration balancer, it doesn't add much in calories, but gives him what hay alone can't give him.
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Horses get most minerals naturally from turnout and grazing, I know its not possible for all people to be able to do that so it seems to me that with such restricted grazing regime you need to provide what they're missing by increasing fiber in their diet and researching the best complete pelleted feed that's going to make up the loss.
The last 2 horse we bought here had been kept like yours and they both almost ate mineral licks and chewed wood to start with, now they get to be out on acreage as much as possible all that's stopped
Other things can cause it - we call it depraved appetite in the UK), boredom, stress, ulcers and worms especially encysted ones
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she shows none of the regular signs of ulcers. good to tack, a breeze to ride (provided abby hasn't pooped anywhere nearby) not touchy on her tummy, flanks or otherwise. she eats well. shes wormed regularly, different types of wormer each time. she used to chew wood after we left a particularly bad boarding barn. (they put 3-6 horses out with 3-4 hay piles. not enough hay per horse, and they fought over what was there. annie lost about 100lbs) but once we got the weight back on her she stopped that. im lucky shes pretty healthy other than poo eating
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Interesting thread...

If you have a good working relationship with your vet, I'd drop in to the clinic, tell them what is going on, ask if they think it is something the vet needs to see the horse for (bloodwork), or if they have any suggestions as to what you might try as a supplement to the diet (which they may have on hand). It might help to narrow down the options to a solution.
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"Drool his poop" whaaaaaaaat. I laughed so hard.

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post #30 of 30 Old 05-14-2013, 02:05 PM Thread Starter
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called the vet.
probios were recommended (thank you!) so ill be getting a couple of tubes of that.

More grazing along with her hay. i may have to get creative there.

and they have a different multivitamin supplement she wants me to try. has electrolites in it, so i dont have to go buy some :)

sooo, now its shop, wait, and see.
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