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  • Kicking chains in the pasture
  • Inpateint horse in the stall

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    08-28-2012, 08:59 PM
Is it possible...?

Lately my horse, Jesse has been a little 'touchy' about his back. Whenever you brush him he gets a little nippy and kicks a little. When we put the bareback pad on he is fine, but then my brother gets on and my mom leads him around and he is fine. But I get on and my mom starts leading him around and he stops and does the horse stomp. I weigh more then my brother (little brother)

Is it possible that he has back pain. We asked the Barn Owner and she said that she has noticed him him kicking his wall with BOTH legs in the morning and at night during feeding time. He also has cuts up and down his hocks. We are getting him kicking chains and we might call the chiropractor if my barn owner or trainer checks his back and recommends one.

Back in July though I rode him and he was absolutely fine. I'm just wondering if over time kicking the stall wall can damage his back? He has been kicking his wall for a while, far before we adopted him. But also he is 7 and with room for improvement in riding. I just want some advice, I don't want him to be in any pain and I just want to be able to fix this as soon as possible so I can ride again.
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    08-28-2012, 09:25 PM
I'm not a teen, but this is something I can help you with.

Yes, your horse is sore through the back given the information you have provided. Please do not attempt to ride him until this is fixed.
The first thing you need to do is consult a chiropracter, and get this kicking sorted out. The kicking is quite likely a result of the back pain, which is now becoming worse from the kicking - a viscious cycle that needs to be broken. Is it possible to allow him to spell in a paddock for a few weeks?
At the same time as contacting a chiro, please also get onto a qualified saddle fitter. If your saddle is not 100% perfect on his back, it's going to cause soreness and no amount of chiropractor visits will relieve that.
From there, making sure ifs not you causing the issue as well. Avoid plonking down hard in the saddle, avoid bouncing in the saddle and so on. That will all contribute to back pain.

You will get more answers by having this thread in 'Horse Health' rather than the teen section. If you are happy for me to do so, I will move it to the appropriate location.
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    08-29-2012, 12:54 AM
^^^ Thank you! Do you mind moving it for me? The barn owner mentioned all of that stuff too and I just wanted to make sure. Although we can't move him to a pasture right now (The pastures are occupied) Do you recommend kicking chains? Hopefully we will get the chiro out and a saddle fitter. I not riding him until this gets sorted, I hate thinking about how he might be in pain while Im on him. I wish I could fix the kicking, but its something he does when he is waiting to go out or to be fed. That's why were looking into kicking chains, luckly his kicking isnt directly at us, he usually does the horse stomp. That might be the answer to why he doesnt walk when im on him.
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    08-29-2012, 01:51 AM
Its a shame that the pasture's are not available at the moment, is there any option of moving him temporarily to pasture board? The kicking I suspect is coming heavily from boredom due to confinement - I'd put money on it that being out in a paddock will help with this issue.
I don't have experience with kicking chains as I have never had a horse with an issue such as that. Mine are all paddocked as much as possible, my good horse only comes in at night if I'm riding early the next morning before work, or competing.

His not wanting to walk, and stomping, when you get on is a pretty ready sign of discomfort. He obviously has a good temperament, as many horses will throw you if their back is out.
    08-29-2012, 03:34 AM
Can you explain the kicking chains? Never heard of em
    08-29-2012, 04:04 AM
Google them Army wife & you'll work them out. Just punishes the horse for kicking.

I second Kayty's advice that you need to get the horse out of the stall ASAP. While of course it's sometimes unavoidable & injuries & such can make it a necessity sometimes, keeping a horse cooped up in a box is not healthy for them, so if you must keep the horse boxed, ensure she's at least taken out for walks a number of times daily.

I agree it sounds like she is in pain too & needs treatment. Unless your BO's a bodyworker, I wouldn't just go on her advice.

Out of interest, when did the stall kicking start & how long has the horse been kept locked up for? What is her diet & how much/many meals daily does she get? Thinking it's possibly due to ulcers or such that she started kicking, so a good equine vet as well as a chiro might be in order.
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    08-29-2012, 04:32 AM
Yikes!! So glad my horse doesn't have a kicking problem!! I'd feel bad. But apparently they work great!!
    08-29-2012, 04:52 AM
^^ Yeah, so do a lot of 'bandaid' fixes, if you're not concerned about the long term or the horse's welfare. *BTW, this is not having a go at you personally OP.
    08-29-2012, 04:58 AM
Originally Posted by loosie    
^^ Yeah, so do a lot of 'bandaid' fixes, if you're not concerned about the long term or the horse's welfare. *BTW, this is not having a go at you personally OP.
What do you mean? I'm not the brightest crayon in the box sometimes ;)
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    08-29-2012, 10:40 AM
He spends all day out in the pasture because he gets daily turn out, at night they bring him back in. I don't know when the kicking started, he usually does it when he is waiting for morning feed or to go out in the pasture.

Loosie- I answered above your first question. Jesse gets 2 meals a day. One at around 6-7 and another around 4:30. But there is some grass out in the pasture too. We are looking into a chiro.

Kayty - We might look into getting him a stall toy, he usually is an inpatient horse and a horse who easily gets bored. (Explaining why he likes to pick up my gear and play with it)
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