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post #11 of 48 Old 06-17-2013, 10:18 AM Thread Starter
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Could you get foot pics ASAP please.....I do NOT like what I see in those pics....at all. And if it's only to make sure I have a vision problem...
You don't. They are LONG - my farrier had some personal emergencies, not to mention she's a full time school teacher and the end of the year is hectic, so it took her a bit longer than I would have liked to get out. However, I won't let ANYONE else touch his hooves as she's been working on them continuously for the last year and he's made huge improvements. He'd grown up on range land before I got him on his 18 month birthday, so he'd never been trimmed. He had some major imbalances, and she actually said last week his hooves are showing signs of internal improvements where the imbalances are being corrected. I'll get some hoof pics today when the vet is out. Right now, I'm uploading video from yesterday to show everyone what I'm seeing.
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Phewwww...I was just at the eye doctor in January..lol

Would you consider learning a little about trimming yourself, under your trimmer's guidance? If he really had a laminitis attack, he should, under no circumstances, be that long between trims.
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Phewwww...I was just at the eye doctor in January..lol

Would you consider learning a little about trimming yourself, under your trimmer's guidance? If he really had a laminitis attack, he should, under no circumstances, be that long between trims.
I agree. She actually taught me quite a bit because I was doing endurance with my other horse that was much higher maintenance (or so it seemed), and I have a rasp to keep things shorter so they fit in hoof boots between trims. Obviously, I need to start doing the same with this guy. However, he should be on a regular 4-week schedule from now on.
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These are from yesterday (almost done with the video!). Sure, they're not exactly "hoof" shots, but they were taken only a week or so after his trim and look much better! I have to take pictures when I can because this guy follows me EVERYWHERE, so he's in a bit of an odd position in them (especially the second as his pivoting around to come see me).



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Can't really see much, sorry. Sand doesn't help either.
Oh, and he's quite chubby....diet!!
Slowfeeder of any kind, low sugar grass hay and a vit/min supplement, magnesium( you can give that in a handful of soaked alfalfa pellets...but really only a handful).
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Here's the video from yesterday. Keep in mind that he was DEAD lame and couldn't take a single normal step two Monday's ago, though hoof boots helped instantly. This is a drastic improvement, and as the video mentions, it took some time to catch him actually short-stepping or tripping (until the end, of course :/, but that's the first time he's developed a distinct and constant limp - I think he did hit a rock or something). Either way, it's still unusual for him. This is a horse that's gone barefoot his entire life, lived in pens with a significant amount of lava rocks strewn about, and has never tripped, stumbled, nor taken a lame step once. Which is why, though he seems (to me) to move decently most of the time, I'm still having the vet out without any further hesitation.

I've noted the parts where he short-steps/trips/stumbles, but if you see more than I do, please let me know. To me, he seems to move fairly well other than those times, but if I'm missing something, I'd like to know!

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Oh, and he's quite chubby....diet!!
Slowfeeder of any kind, low sugar grass hay and a vit/min supplement, magnesium( you can give that in a handful of soaked alfalfa pellets...but really only a handful).
Good to know I'm not crazy! I've brought it up to my BO repeatedly, but she insists that he looks good, that "there's no such thing as overfeeding a baby" and that "it's good for them to be fat when they're young - they need it to grow!" :/ Nevertheless, especially with this lameness episode, I've been able to get him off the alfalfa and onto grass and have rationed him 1/4 bale/day, especially since that's what I need in order to make it last through our move.

I had him on a slow feeder that he rolls around in his stall, but took it out yesterday because a lot was falling out and staying on the ground. I know they're good, but explain to me one more time to me why he needs one?
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He's a little off. Even before he stumbled he was ever so slightly bobbing. You would see better if he was to trot on concrete/ asphalt. His whole front half seems tense, so there's still some pain. Have x-rays taken of his feet, and if it's only to confirm there's nothing going on.
And, as I already said, diet.
He's such a sweetie
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He's a little off. Even before he stumbled he was ever so slightly bobbing. You would see better if he was to trot on concrete/ asphalt. His whole front half seems tense, so there's still some pain. Have x-rays taken of his feet, and if it's only to confirm there's nothing going on.
And, as I already said, diet.
He's such a sweetie
Interesting - It seems so obvious, but I never thought of the sand masking the head bob. Only 45 minutes left until I get a proper evaluation, but I'm glad you're seeing the same thing I am so I feel much better about getting the vet out. He's the first horse I've owned myself (grew up with horses at home, though), so I'm always worried about everything. But, I'd rather be safe than sorry!

I'll talk to my vet about a recommended diet today when she comes out :)

For comparison, this video is from a week or two earlier demonstrating his awesomeness in clicker training, but is also a good example of "normal" movement for him.

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You want a slowfeeder for the hay. Slow Feeding Horses on Paddock Paradise Tracks - Paddock Paradise Wiki has several different possibilities.
Keeps the hay off the ground, slows down consumption, a ration lasts much longer, he can pull out only a little at a time, will eat more like he would if he had to find the tasty bits on the range. His stomach is never empty, he never gets the insulin spike, so his system will not be overwhelmed from all that sugar( there's a much more scientific explanation, im sure lol).
I have noticed my horses preferring the nets over hay on the ground.
I made my nets out of baling twine, have different sizes, and have several hanging on the fence posts, to encourage them to move to see if there's better hay down in the next corner.
Since you're in a boarding situation, you can get several nets( they start at about 8$), and just fill them all when you're there so whoever feeds just switches out nets.
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