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    06-17-2013, 12:36 PM
Green Broke
It's definitely NOT good for a young, growing horse to be fat. It's actually preferable for them to be on the lean side. Carrying all that extra weight is adding stress on their joints.

It looks like he lands toe first in the video sometimes? Have you noticed that? I might be a bit delirious from sickness and lack of sleep LOL. He seems overall ouchy throughout the entire video, not wanting to put too much pressure on his fronts, dragging his hinds(though he does that in the clicker lunging video, too.) He could have some heel pain, abscesses forming, or could be suffering from the beginning stages of laminitis. Can't wait to see what your vet says.
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    06-17-2013, 12:41 PM
Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
Since you're in a boarding situation, you can get several nets( they start at about 8$), and just fill them all when you're there so whoever feeds just switches out nets.
Great idea! I hadn't thought of that. I actually made my own slow feeder out of hockey nets. I have plenty of netting left over (they sell it in HUGE sections), so I'll make a few small ones for my BO to put out :)
    06-17-2013, 12:53 PM
There you go
I would ration even the grass hay for him at the moment, tho. He shouldn't have over 1.5% of bodyweight in feed, he needs to lose weight now. His portion is easy to weigh in the net, with a little fishing scale, for example.
I would also measure his body condition score monthly, write it down, to stay on top of things. He should be a 5 on the Henneke scale.
And yes, Kayella is right. Youngsters shouldn't be overfed. Oldtimers I knew used to state youngsters, especially of easykeeper breeds, should starve to adulthood. Doesn't mean they should lack important nutrients, but certainly shouldn't be fed too rich.
I'd get him the TC30% supplement and rationed grass hay, until he's where he's supposed to be, then he can have a bit more hay again.
    06-17-2013, 01:19 PM
Originally Posted by deserthorsewoman    
Could you get foot pics ASAP please.....I do NOT like what I see in those pics....at all. And if it's only to make sure I have a vision problem...
There's something amiss there with those front feet desert you don't have a vision problem...... I can enlarge photo there are problems there with front hoofs.
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    06-17-2013, 01:29 PM
Originally Posted by spirit88    
There's something amiss there with those front feet desert you don't have a vision problem...... I can enlarge photo there are problems there with front hoofs.
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I meant to say " I DON'T have" lol....
    06-17-2013, 02:38 PM
Laminitis in all four :( Worse in the fronts, but still finding a strong digital pulse in the hinds as well. However, the prognosis is good for now as long as he doesn't take a downhill turn or refuse to improve with treatment. She says she thinks I'll just have to manage his feed (not a problem) and stay on top of his regular maintenance.

As for now, the farrier that my family has always used and even met this guy when I first got him is trying to make room in his schedule to come out tomorrow morning. If he can't, I'll have to make arrangements to miss work for him to come Wednesday evening. Those are the only two possibilities to get him out this week. He's very well known in our area and frankly the best. Of course, that means this isn't going to be cheap, either, but that's ok. There's a reason I only have one horse now. He's going to definitely put shoes on the front to help get Flash relief, and we'll put them on the backs, too, if Flash isn't a pill about it.

She doesn't feel x-rays are necessary yet and is hesitant to call it a "founder", but if he doesn't improve or if he gets worse, I'll have to call a vet with a portable machine out (I don't have a trailer). She recommended two vets, both of which I've worked with quite a bit before and trust with my baby.

My dad just called and said he's really sorry about this, especially since I had such high hopes for Flash, but thinks that this is a road that I don't want to go down, that I'll be dealing with it for the rest of his life, and that it would be very expensive. I'm not sure what he was suggesting, but it was clear he wouldn't keep Flash if it were him. He's well-intentioned, but horses to him are just a hobby and he doesn't like to mess with horses that are going to have chronic issues. I told him what the vet said about thinking he could very well go on to live a happy, healthy, and long life with proper management and he was supportive, though. It's not exactly the best encouragement, but at least he was honest and supportive of me and what I'm going through.

So, now that I've heard my Dad's opinion, what have I got to look forward to? I'm still optimistic, but it's hard when most of what you hear are about all the career-ending and life-ending cases. I'll do whatever it takes to keep him sound and healthy within reason. Of course, I can't put the welfare of my family at risk, either. Right now, it doesn't sound like it has to go that direction, and I'm really hoping it doesn't.
    06-17-2013, 02:45 PM
Yay! The farrier is coming out tomorrow morning at 11:30. Such a wonderful guy to move all his morning clients for me and my baby, especially when we're not regular clients :) Hopefully this will get him more comfortable! He's on bute until he gets his shoes.
    06-17-2013, 03:03 PM
Green Broke
Oh poor guy. ): I know how you feel as I've been battling hoof problems with my yearling since January. But laminitis is not a death sentence! I've seen dead lame horses go back to work in just a matter of months. His case seems to be brought on by nutrition. Yes, his diet will have to always be monitored as he would be more susceptible to laminitis again, but it's not all that expensive.

Here's an interesting read that will show a horse that you would think should have been put down, but is now a lesson horse! Hopefully it'll help keep your chin up. ;)

Severe Laminitis Case Study
    06-17-2013, 03:19 PM
Control his diet like your doing and don't let him get any chubbier .. you caught it in time I think you should have a good out come.

Main thing is diet and good trims.
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    06-17-2013, 03:19 PM
Green Broke
Does the new farrier not need X-rays to know if there is any rotation? Did the vet leave you a shoeing prescription?

I only ask because these things were requested the only time I ever dealt with a laminitis case. Maybe the vet doesn't feel there is any rotation...(answering my own question)

So sorry you and Flash are having to deal with this!!


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