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    04-05-2010, 02:49 PM
Question Poultices and liniments.

Please see this link for reference - Swelling along tendon? Please, please read. =|

Long story short, Ricci's leg has been swollen along the tendon for a month now. No heat, no lameness, and no pain when palpated.

I talked to a vet. He said that without seeing it or doing an ultrasound, there is no way to know how serious it could be, but it's definitely a good sign that it's not painful. I told him that I had heard it may be a sprain/strain, and he said that there is almost always some kind of pain involved if that were the case. He suggested a heated poultice or liniment to wrap on it to help get the blood moving in that area.

Now, what kind should I get? Are there any brands or specific things I should look for? I've never had to use something like it before, so I have no idea what to look for. And as far as applying it, I have quilts and polos, but should there be anything between the liniment and the quilt? Should I wrap and/or put the liniment on both legs, or can I put it on just the one? How long should I keep it on for?

Please and thank you for any input!
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    04-05-2010, 06:28 PM
Bump!? =D
    04-05-2010, 08:33 PM
I used http://www.amazon.com/Horsemans-Dream-Vet-Liniment-16/dp/B001CCZQ9A (got in local TSC). Basically put it on and massages for 5 mins/twice a day (it's SMELLY though! :) ). I believe that was the only one I could find with camphor there and as far as I know it's really good ingredient to keep it warm.
    04-05-2010, 09:22 PM
Oh okay, I'll see if I can find it somewhere in the local places. So I'd just massage it in and then... rinse it off? Wrap it? I should look for something with camphor then? Good deal. Thanks so much! I really appreciate it! The sooner I learn about this, the sooner I can buy something and start using it, lol.
    04-05-2010, 10:45 PM
You keep looking for answers without going for what everyone, including the vet is saying -- an ultrasound will likely give you the information you are looking for. I don't know how much ultrasound costs where you are, but in my neck of the woods, the amount of money you will spend on treatments for your own diagnosis will be more than the cost of the ultrasound.

I am not one to jump on the phone to the vet at every little thing, but I too have been in the position of just "not knowing." At that point, I gave in and had the vet out. Best thing I ever did because the true diagnosis (revealed by x-ray) I never would have guessed in that case. The treatment would never have happened.

Have you priced an ultrasound?
    04-05-2010, 11:10 PM
Ultrasounds here are about $200. And even then, they might need to X-ray, which is another $200. Some vets want to do a lameness eval, which somehow comes out to $90, on top of the farm call, which is at least $80. My vet said that without doing an ultrasound, he can't know for sure, but that usual treatment is to use a heating liniment or poultice, wrapping, and some confinement combined with hand-walking. He said to avoid stall rest, but minimal running is best. I think I'm more than capable of handling it myself. Not to mention, it's been a month. If it were going to get worse, it would have, but it hasn't.

I'm calling all the vets in the area and talking to them, but seeing as none of the vets have said "I need to see her right now" and are saying "It's a really good sign that it doesn't hurt," and "it's unlikely that it's anything too serious, but we'd need an ultrasound to know for sure" instead, I'm not feeling any sense of urgency.

I understand why you are saying what you're saying, because I would say the same thing in your shoes. I would walk through hell and back for my horses if I had to. But in this case, I feel very strongly that I'd pay a fortune for the exams just to have the vet say, "It's this condition, keep her from moving too much and use a heat liniment or poultice, and hand walk her twice a day." =]
    04-06-2010, 02:04 AM
    04-06-2010, 03:28 AM
The swelling is mostly likely a windpuff. If he isn't lame, no heat or pain then do nothing. These fluid-filling swellings often are just blemishes, but attention should be given if they are new or associated with lameness. Windpuffs are soft, fluid-filled swellings toward the back of the fetlock joint, resulting from inflamed deep digital flexor tendon sheaths.
    04-06-2010, 12:35 PM
Hmm... I never thought of windpuffs. I'm not too sure though, because the articles I've read suggest it's more common in the hinds, and is usually in more than one leg. It also says it's based around the fetlock, and while the initial swelling did seem to stem from the fetlock, now it's from the back of her knee down to the fetlock.

After some brief reading online, I'm still not any closer to knowing what it might be. My friend looked at her last night, and felt something that could be a splint on the opposite front leg, so maybe she had been slightly favoring that front leg, causing the other to fill up with fluid. She suggest standing wraps at night as well, so starting tonight, I will grudgingly keep her stalled at night for at least a week with liniment and wraps on both front legs.

It seems that the cause of most injuries in this area is caused from over-extension, which very possibly could have happened. The day before this came up, we had a run down the road, and we went a bit longer/further than usual because there was no traffic. The combination of running on concrete and running longer than she used to can definitely be the reason for that.
    04-06-2010, 12:50 PM
In fact I did 2 steps: first I did a warm water compress (which also cleaned up the area), and then put it on, massages, and left it on till next time I did it. My horse had a huge bump between the front legs when she hit the post. Vet didn't suggest to do the ultrasound, but suggested this warm water/ massage/liniment combo I did.

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