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post #1 of 9 Old 07-27-2009, 10:04 PM Thread Starter
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'Pregnant' geldings and stallions

I have nothing against horses being fat. Nothing at all. I'd rather horses be a little too fat than too thin...

But when I see male horses so fat that they look pregnant, tat's when it begins to bother me.

My cousin Tamara owns a 24-ish Arabian gelding named Mo. My family used to own him, and I rode him a lot before we gave him to my cousin. When we gave him to her, he was trim, fit, and in good riding shape. She rode him... I think once or twice before retiring him, which didn't bother me, as he was old when we gave him to her and she wanted a horse to play with, not ride... plus, his aritheritis was getting pretty bad.

I have no problem with the way she treats him. He's treated like a king. But I do have problems with his weight. Mo has never been a very fat horse... but since we gave him to her, she began feeding him more than he's ever been fed and the grass he lives on is very rich. He blew up and literally looks about nine or ten months pregnant. When he walks, his stomach wobbles from one side to the other. He also has a pretty large crest, but he's always had it, even when he was rode daily and was kept really fit. I don't know his medical history, so I don't know if he's foundered or anything before...

I really want to talk to my cousin about cutting off his feed and possibly getting him a grazing muzzle, but my cousin refuses because ''it's cruel". I'm worried about Mo, because he does have hoof problems every now and then and my cousin is fairly ignorant about horse-care. She tries her best to learn, but due to a mental problem that keeps her stuck with a 12 year old girls mindset, it's hard for her. I don't want to say anything mean or anything to her, and I can't go to her parents because they're so profective over my cousin that they may take anything negative or helpful I say and twist it all around.

And on the subject of 'pregnant' male horses... my three year old horses sire and half-brother are both stallions and they both look like they're about to pop with twins!!!

I guess this is just a rant... Sorry...

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post #2 of 9 Old 07-27-2009, 10:28 PM
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maybe email her some easy to read and understand articles about equine nutrition and weight and the effects that being over weight can have on horses, espcially horses with arthritis.

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Franky, I'd still go to parents and explain them that if horse dies or will have to be put down it'll be MUCH MORE stress on their handicapped daughter then telling her in nice way how to feed him. Actually I'm surprised how easy sometime to explain something to mentally ******ed (is it a right name?) kids what is good and what is not.
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post #4 of 9 Old 07-28-2009, 09:13 AM
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Ask her if it's cruel for him to be so fat that's uncomfrotable and have health problems that can cause pain and even death! Does SHE eat candy and desserts for every meal? That's what sweet feed and many horse feeds are. They are full of sugar and starch that is not good for horses.

Also tell her and her parents that his extra weight makes his arthritic joints hurt MORE than when he is thin. Have them read this article. The same general rules apply to horses.
Role of Body Weight in Osteoarthritis

If she wants him happy and pain free, she needs to stop ALL grain and feed, and let him just eat his nice pasture and hay. If she wants to give him vitamins, you can buy pelleted vitamins to mix with just a handful of grain (Select II is a good one). That way she can give him some "goodies" and vitamins, and he won't gain so much weight.

Good pasture is more than enough for most horses. She should also get him a buddy, so he'll move around more. You can buy a BLM Donkey for only $25-75, and they make very companions for horses.
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I went over there today and hung out with her all day. We talked a lot about the horses, Mo in particular. I think she's beginning to see that maybe it's not healthy for him to be so fat. I pointed out to her that it's better for a horse to be a little too thin than too fat, and she said she was going to talk to her dad about it.

I don' know what you'd call her problem... she acts and thinks like a 12 or 13 year old, though she has times when she's very mature and understands things on a very deep level.

They would get a companion for Mo, but th pasture they have him in is less than an acre and only just big enough for him. He is pastures next to an old stallion and old mare, though, and they keep each other company... and his pasture is also back-to-back with another pasture that has cows and an Emu in it. Her dog also runs with him every now and then, and it's not like the horse doesn't run around. He acts like a 3 year old half the time and runs full speed only to slide to a stop and make quick turns all over his pasture every now and then.

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Originally Posted by luvs2ride1979 View Post
Ask her if it's cruel for him to be so fat that's uncomfrotable and have health problems that can cause pain and even death! Does SHE eat candy and desserts for every meal? That's what sweet feed and many horse feeds are. They are full of sugar and starch that is not good for horses.
I think this is a good, frank way to put it.


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post #7 of 9 Old 07-29-2009, 10:26 AM
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Ah... *blushes slightly*
My boys are a little chunky.
I got a little carried away with Blue because of his immune system problem, once he got started putting weight on I didn't want to stop!
I hope he's okay now... :(

Anyhow, obsecity is a HUGE problem in the horse industry, one that is most often overlooked. It can cause SO many problems... Heart disease, founder, joint stress, lethargy.... It's really almost as bad a having a horse under weight.

I've got a few chunky monsters, but none that aren't too bad! Admittley, I do need to work them some more.

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post #8 of 9 Old 10-26-2009, 09:21 PM
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one thing not to do: abruptly cut off his feed. You need to GRADUALLY wean a horse down to a desired level of feed. Talk to your/your cousins vet about it
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post #9 of 9 Old 10-27-2009, 12:48 PM
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It is far, far better for a horse to be a bit under-weight than even a bit over weight. . . Applies to horses, dogs, cats - whatever.
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