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post #1 of 24 Old 07-24-2011, 01:59 AM Thread Starter
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Prone to abscesses in front hooves- suggestions?

Agh. So last year, around the end of August, beginning of September, my mare came up lame- long story short we finally figured it out to be an abscess- and we decided to let her go barefoot through winter and then shoe her in front come spring. Well, before our first shoeing of the spring, she had another one. Right after it was drained out & healed up, she had the fronts put on, and no more problems. This was all the farrier suggested to prevent future abscesses.

Well, come today and she's lame. We suspect an abscess simply because she's had them before, and since there's no obvious wound to her legs otherwise. So, for now, it looks like I'm stocking up on epsom salts.

I guess my question is, other than soaking in the salts & warm water after she gets an abscess, what can I do to prevent them? Obviously I want her to be healthy & not in pain, so I can deal with going out to soak her feet, that's fine. But I'd rather not have her be in pain to begin with. :/ While it's not as important as keeping her healthy, I also miss out on riding her, and preparing for our shows that we like to go in.

Sigh. Okay, so to sum it up: Horse is prone to abscesses in front, has been shoed in front to hopefully prevent them, but that isn't doing much, anything else I can do to prevent abscesses?
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post #2 of 24 Old 07-24-2011, 03:59 AM
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*sigh* I feel your pain, my gelding has had 2 in the past 3 months (he has one right now :\ )

The first time I had the vet out and she prescribed him all the normal painkillers/anti inflammatories etc.

-Biotin. Get a hoof supplement with Biotin in it (I'm using Strong Hoof at the moment, but my vet recommended Farriers Formula, its just nobody stocks it here)
Follow the directions for the supplement and hopefully it should help. But don't expect to see results just like that, as far as I know, the supplement only works on the new growth that grows in once horse is on the supplement, so it can take months i'm told, so see a difference.

Is she in wet/muddy conditions, eg is it winter where you are? (Thanks mother Nature, ugh)

-I put up a thread yesterday in the nutrition part of health asking about Farriers Formula and other hof supplements, so the suggestions on there may be of some benefit to you.

The vet also suggested to me that yes shoes should help, because it is winter here and so Mitch is in mud most of the time, so shoes should help to lift his hooves off the mud a bit.

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No, it's currently summer, and we're in a dry spell as well so no mud. :P
I'll see about finding a supplement.
Thanks for the advice.
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I wish someone in the equine medical profession would come up with an answer.

IMHO, I think it starts with the horse's immune system because I personally know of two horses with recurrent abscesses. Their lifestyles and health don't begin to resemble each other.

Horse #1, a registered APHA, lived on ten acres of lush pasture with no rocks or stones. Reasonable amount of mud vs. dry because we're talking the OH/PA border.

The Owner changed his feed and farrier as many times as she had the options, took him to every highly qualified vet within 100 radius, even had her hay ANNND pasture soil tested.

Zip, zero, nada - nothing helped, nothing in the tests showed anything.

This was her only horse, she missed a year of riding trying to fix him, so sold him to someone that used him mostly in the arena environment and he was kept in stall much of the time. That helped but still not 100%.

Horse #2, a registered Paso Fino, lives on seven very rock acres in Tennessee, near the Kentucky border. He was formally diagnosed with Cushings & Insulin Resistance about four years ago.

Needless-to-say this horse is on a very strict diet that does NOT include grain. He is drylotted during the day, turned out with a grazing muzzle at night, so he can be with the other two horses, of whom he is the dominant one.

The Owner cannot keep him free from abscesses and he has Foundered once on her. Until the cushings hit, this horse was a rough and ready-never-had-an-issue trail horse. He is 22.

He now abscesses so bad that he is completely unridable and can't even carry her granddaughter around the yard a couple times.

I gave those two instances because I am well-acquainted with both of these horses who, once the abscesses started, never became completely sound again. The APHA is a lot younger than the Paso Fino, so my thought is his immune system is much stronger and that's why he doesn't YET have the issues the Paso does.

All I have done is put forth more questions than answers. Based on these two horses, who live completely different but well cared for lives, I'm not sure the OP will ever see her horse abscess-free

I sure hope so, and when that happens, please share what you did with the rest of the horse world because this seems to be an increasing issue.

It just has to be related to the immune system and somehow to diet. Maybe not the current diet, but enough of a bad diet in a previous environment to cause these particular horses permanent damage.

I dunno-------------------------------?

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So here is a cheat cheaper supplement for hooves that will perfect the coat as well. Cheat answer? = gelatine. A tspn a day in feed and you should start to see a huge difference in hoof growth and coat condition within two weeks. It helps it grow out quicker and stronger and even feeding all 5 of my horses with it I still haven't run out and I've had it nigh on 3mnths!!! And the best thing? It only costed me $30 for a 1kg bag. Awesome money saver. One bag with 5 horses lasts me over 3mnths!!!!!!!! What you should notice is a line horizontally across the hoof grow out and down (kind of like a founder line but there is only one ripple with gelatine not heaps like founder) and above that line straight smooth healthy hoof and below that line all the old rough hoof (big difference I swear even for horses on 6wk farrier trims) an if your horse has rough longer hair you can actually see it grow out Luke a line as well that moves down the body length and one side is nice soft short new healthy hair and the other side the rough longer older hair. Amazing to see!!!!

Also if horses constantly knock their fetlocks that can bring on abcesses too an that one can't really be prevented even with the best pasture fences they can still do it.
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How is she weight wise? If she is continually getting abscesses then you need to look at the underlying causes. On of the main causes of abscesses is an overweight horse. Humans have a bad habit of killing our horses with love. We want them fat for some reason. This adds on extra stresses to the body and you can literally blow the feet off your horse.

Now, I'm not saying that your horse has this problem, but it is something to look into.
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Excel's had three in the past year. Such horrible feet. The biggest thing is to keep his feet dry from mud and bacteria. Mud and moisture is horrible for them, which is why my guy popped two this spring.
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How is she weight wise?
If she is continually getting abscesses then you need to look at the underlying causes.
On of the main causes of abscesses is an overweight horse.
Humans have a bad habit of killing our horses with love.
We want them fat for some reason.
This adds on extra stresses to the body and you can literally blow the feet off your horse.

Now, I'm not saying that your horse has this problem, but it is something to look into.
Ditto this.
Generally 'easy keep' horses tend to be the ones with the chronic abcess problems.
It is diet related.
I found with my 'easy keep', tend to abcess frequently QH,
That controlling the diet, using a hoof supplement/hoof ointment, and regular 6-7 week scheduled trims made a BIG difference.

Good luck, it can be very frustrating.
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Well, I wouldn't say she's overweight at all. She was when we first bought her, but now I would consider her at a good weight. She's trimmed every 6-8 weeks, and I try to be out almost every day to either ride or groom, so her hooves are picked out frequently.

Is there a hoof supplement anyone can suggest? Should I look into SmartPaks?
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