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    09-28-2010, 05:13 PM
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Foal
Proud cut gelding

I bought a really, really nice horse a while back. He is proud cut which is probally why I got him so cheap. He rides great but what a pain to have to deal with. I treat him like a stud which is not a big deal but is there anything I can have done about him being proud cut. Some kind of proceder or something. If not oh well my wife has fallen in love with him and im not allowed to ride him anymore so he has a home for life but I would love to through him out with the other horses and free up my front lot. Heres a picture of him like I said nice horse. He is the bay the other picture would not load. Thanks in advace.
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    09-28-2010, 05:23 PM
  #2
Green Broke
I believe there is a procedure but it isn't cheap. Call your local vet and ask how much the surgery is. I think it runs from $500 to $1000. As long as you are talking about a cryptorchid and not just a gelding that was cut late and still thinks he is a stud.
     
    09-28-2010, 05:47 PM
  #3
Banned
If he is proud cut, you better learn to like that behavior, because its here to stay. The best thing you can do is to keep him away from the mares (the scent makes em a bit nutty) and to work him as much as you can.

If he is a Cryptorchid (has an undecended testicle) there is a procedure to remove the undecended teste. It can be easy and cheap or hard and expensive. It depends on how high in the abdominal cavity the teste is.
     
    09-28-2010, 08:20 PM
  #4
Trained
Sorry, don't know what procedures there may be, but if he's matured with this behaviour, it's likely it won't change too much even if he's now cut properly. It will have become a learned behaviour.

If he isn't actually able to breed(proud cut can mean diff things to diff people), and he's reasonably sociable with other horses, I'd be inclined to keep him with your other horses. I would only separate them if he was capable & you didn't want foals(assuming you have mares), &/or he was unsocialised & inclined to get too aggressive with other horses. Even then, keeping him with one gelding may be OK. You may find that his behaviour when being ridden etc is better if he's otherwise not frustrated & kept alone too.
     
    09-28-2010, 08:31 PM
  #5
Started
If your around other horses and he's having issues with mares and such..rub some vicks vapor rub in his nostrils. Then he won't be able to smell the mares and will settle down. It's a trick folks I know had when they were showing their stallions at shows.
     
    09-28-2010, 08:40 PM
  #6
Foal
When he was cut they left the glands in him and I have found out sense getting him they did this on purpose for some reason. He is very agressive with other horses. If I did not have any mares around I would put him in with the geldings but right now with my mares around and in the next paster he kicks the crap out of the other geldings.
     
    09-28-2010, 08:45 PM
  #7
Started
I wonder if they did this to use him as a teaser? Can't actually get the mares pregnant, but will act like a stud and let the stallion owner know the mare is ready to breed without the actual stallion getting hurt.

I wonder if you can give him some hormone shots to counteract the studdy behavior? Possibly female hormones or something? Might talk to your vet about it.. You could also possibly have him "gelded" again, put down and have the vet find the two cords and remove the glands that were left? Just a thought.
     
    09-28-2010, 11:40 PM
  #8
Foal
To my understanding they wanted that aditude left in the horse. The guy I got him from bought him as a 3 year old and had him at a trainers for 5 years not a small name trainer ether I have all the magazine aticles and pitures of the horse while it was with this trainer he's in a lot of foundation quater horse issues. The big name trainer had it left in so he would have more sponk for barrel racing which the horse never did but ended up doing clicics with the horse. To make a long story short the owner of the horse could not handle him and I could not turm him down for that price. I will get with my vet on it and find out what she can do.
     
    09-29-2010, 12:02 AM
  #9
Yearling
Proud cutting is virtually impossible the way that horses are gelded so I can get on board with your explanation of them having it done intentionally (but WHHHYYYY? Some people have strange ideas). I would recommend that you do have your vet confirm that he is proud cut (meaning some of the epididymus is left behind) versus cryptorchid (meaning an entire abnormal testicle is left behind). Cryptorchidism can, and often does, result in cancer. You would want to resolve this I'm guessing, since your wife is so in love with the guy.
     
    09-29-2010, 12:21 AM
  #10
Banned
My former horse was a proud cut gelding. There are threads all over this BB about him. Do a search for Nico. He settled in quite well when he was away from all the other horses. We eventually found one old boss mare that wouldnt let him boss her around. He never tried anything with her and she kept him grounded. He couldn't be turned out with geldings as he would be fine one minute and charging the next. He would mount mares in season. All of this behavior got better with time and with more work. A tired horse is a good horse.
     

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