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post #1 of 18 Old 12-01-2009, 03:37 PM Thread Starter
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i was loading one of my horses into the 2 horse trailer that i had he got half way in and freaked out well when he did his back leggs went under the trailer and when he brought his leggs back out he peeled the hide off his hauk and opened it up bad we have bin taking care of it our selves he is healing good but now its coverd with proud flesh the vet told me the only way to get rid of proud flesh is to scrape it off and start over again there has to be beter way
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post #2 of 18 Old 12-01-2009, 03:41 PM
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I would get the vet out to check him over! I would also invest in Vetericyn. you can google it! I bought some for my mare and it is a miracle! you probably could of prevented that from happening if you started using this stuff right away! I will never be without it on hand ever again!
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whatarush, I see that you are a new member here - welcome to the Horse Forum! Your post was a little hard to understand (call me an old fogey! I need punctuation and non-text speak, haha) but what I think you're asking is whether there is a better way to deal with proud flesh than cutting it off?
In my (very inexpert) opinion, cutting it off is the best way to deal with proud flesh, especially if it is a large area. There are very caustic substances out there that will inhibit or even eat a small amount of proud flesh, but unfortunately they cannot distinguish between healthy flesh and the over growth, so you have to be very careful in the application. As well, with it being a caustic substance, it can sting if the nerve endings are near to the surface.
When my horse developed proud flesh with a nasty cut he got, my vet recommended letting the cut fill in as quickly as possible, and that meant allowing a bit of proud flesh to form. He did develop a large mass of proud flesh. The vet recommended cutting off the proud flesh and then using a cortico steroid/furacin mix to control any excess growth from there on in.



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Proud flesh:
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After having proud flesh removed:
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Last stages of healing:
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Now, he has a bit of a bump on his fetlock and a scar, but looking back, I think I did all I could to prevent as much cosmetic disfiguration as possible.


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I just wanted to add - while some products are advertised as prohibiting proud flesh, and encouraging a faster rate of healing, most times they also are very caustic (they sting, a lot!) and greatly encourage scarring.


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post #5 of 18 Old 12-01-2009, 04:02 PM
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I was told to use wonder dust to prevent it. Maybe it has something to do with the carbon?
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The proud flesh is a protective mechanism for horses, its a soft vascular tissue that grows fast to close the wound. I've pealed or cut it off with good success but most would probably more comfortable having a vet do it. There's a powder you can put on it to prevent it but it also slows the healing. I believe its called "wonder dust", be careful what wounds you use this stuff on, many vets say not to use it at all. Mine recommends using it only when absolutely necessary. Its kind of an acid I understand.

Compression can prevent proud flesh pretty well. I cut some off a horse last spring and the vet had me wrap it fairly tight and leave it alone. He said the continuous cleaning people do every day or so is actually harmful, and causes proud flesh because it re-aggravates the wound and activates the proud flesh response.

Good luck with it and let us know how it turns out.
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Wonder dust isnt that bad. Ive accidently puffed it in my mouth before, and I was fine. I use it once on wounds that are looking like they're growing proud flesh, then leave it alone.
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The proud flesh is a protective mechanism for horses, its a soft vascular tissue that grows fast to close the wound. I've pealed or cut it off with good success but most would probably more comfortable having a vet do it. There's a powder you can put on it to prevent it but it also slows the healing. I believe its called "wonder dust", be careful what wounds you use this stuff on, many vets say not to use it at all. Mine recommends using it only when absolutely necessary. Its kind of an acid I understand.

Compression can prevent proud flesh pretty well. I cut some off a horse last spring and the vet had me wrap it fairly tight and leave it alone. He said the continuous cleaning people do every day or so is actually harmful, and causes proud flesh because it re-aggravates the wound and activates the proud flesh response.

Good luck with it and let us know how it turns out.
Very good advice. The reason some vets are against Wonder Dust is because of what I explained above - it's a caustic substance that does prevent proud flesh, but it can also prevent healthy tissue from forming as well. Another reason that vets may not recommend it is because it can encourage scarring.

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Wonder dust isnt that bad. Ive accidently puffed it in my mouth before, and I was fine. I use it once on wounds that are looking like they're growing proud flesh, then leave it alone.
I would just like to point out that the reason it didn't sting your mouth is because it's not an open wound with exposed nerve endings. Just like you can eat salt or lemon juice no problem, but it greatly irritates a wound - does that make sense?


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I would just like to point out that the reason it didn't sting your mouth is because it's not an open wound with exposed nerve endings. Just like you can eat salt or lemon juice no problem, but it greatly irritates a wound - does that make sense?



I totally get it. Actually I bite my cheeck alot so I probably had an open sore, but I was trying to point out it didnt burn me. Im sure it is caustic, thats why it works.

If you use it once when you see the flesh growing you get it there on that outside layer. It kills that stuff and it can continue heal underneath. I wouldnt use it everyday, or on every cut. I think I have the same bottle I bought for my first horse, ten years ago. I wouldnt use it on a huge would like your horse had. Im sure that would hurt like hell. Did you figure out how your horse got that wound? I think I would have freaked out seeing all that blood coming out.
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[COLOR="Navy"] it's a caustic substance
Yep, "caustic", thats the word I was looking for. Sometimes its a bummer having a limited vocabulary.

On a horse I had 20 years ago I had some proud flesh coming in on a hock injury. I was able to peal it all off in one quick pull. It came off real nice and in one clump. Normally it takes a razor or something. One hates to do this to your horse but sometimes its for the best. Some horses get it more than others.
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