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post #11 of 23 Old 08-14-2008, 10:05 PM Thread Starter
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he gets 0 hay in the summer because he has 30 acres of pasture to graze on... I do give him a supplement "Vita Plus" which he gets in his grain. We only feed pure grass hay in the winter plus his grain. So I am hoping that between his grain/supplement and grazing grass he is getting enough protien to build that all important muscle and bone.

Does anyone know anything about Vita Plus

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post #12 of 23 Old 08-14-2008, 10:09 PM
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if you go with the Gro N Win at 3lbs daily which is the upper limit for a 18 month old you could do away with the vitaplus and add in some beet pulp for extra calories or even alfalfa cubes/pellets or rice bran
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Ok I am leaning more towards Gro n Win at this point I have a 50 lbs. bag of cadence I have to use before I change, but as far as changing over to Gro n Win after this bag if I start him out slowly I shouldn't have a major issue for the most part right?

It's just a pain to feed my horse different than the 2 other mature horses he's out to pasture with. We don't have a barn so we set out there grain in dishes, and once the big horses are done they come and push scout away and eat his grain. So we have to sit outside and baby sit and Scout eats SO SLOW! In the winter I can see this being a problem... it's just a pain in the butt.

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post #14 of 23 Old 08-14-2008, 10:30 PM
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the Gro N Win would be fine for ALL your horse the adults will get about 1lb per day ... ask them for the Buckeye Cup it is great.. all of my horses are on something close to this... I started out on Buckeye and went to Kent to save a bit more money LOL

I worried more about backing them off of the grain then adding the Gro N Win when I changed in fact ... I pulled the last two I changed straight off of grain and onto the ration balancer no problem ... not the best idea but I did it

This is my 3yo gelding on 1 1/2 lbs of ration balancer daily
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This is what Vita Plus has in it

Vit A (IU) 25,000

Vit B-1 (mg) 13

Vit B-12 (mg) 0.20

Vit E (IU) 25

Selenium (mg) 0.01

Potassium (mg) 241

Magnesium (mg) 13

Vit D (IU) 2,500

Iron (mg) 100

Copper (mg) 4

Zinc (mg) 20

Cobalt (mg) 0.05

Iodine (mg) 1

Calcium (mg) 780

Phosphorous (mg) 425

Manganese (mg) 10


If I fed this with the Cadence other than protien do you think my Horse is getting most of what he needs?

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most likely yes without sitting adn doing ALL of the numbers at a galance it seems ok

really without testing the hay and/or pasture it is hard to tell

make sure you are feeding min amounts for his age and weight though that is where many people go wrong
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how do you test pasture grass and hay?

I can't imagine it's simple

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you can contact your local Ag extension office
it is normally fairly cheap but if you have multiply hay sources it can get expensive at $12
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I have fed vita plus to all of my horses forever, even while feeding omolene 200 which is a completely fortified feed and they say that you do not have to feed any vit or min supplement with it. Most vit and min that are in supplements will actually be (for lack of a better word) peed from their system if they do not need it. The only thing you have to be careful about is things like selenium, vitamin a and d. These are absorbed into the blood stream and can not be peed out as easily if overdosed.

As far as switching feeds, when you start to run low on cadence, decide which feed you are going to start him on and make it a choice you are going to stick with for a while until he gets older. Start by adding a handful or two in place of the cadence the first day. The gradually, over at least seven days (I do 2 weeks) work him up to where he eats no more candence and all of his new feed. In the middle of the 7 or 14 days you should have his feed 1/2 cadence and 1/2 new feed. this way you lessen the risk of the new feed upsetting him and causing a colic episode.

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When switching from a high volume feed to a lower one like Gro N Win 3 or 4 handfulls is a lb

6 of those cups I posted is 3lbs ...
1 of those cups = 1 1/2 mmeasuring cups and most of the pelleted or textured feeds I have weighed (which is alot) have been close to that


Gro N Win is also completely forage or grain by products from the mill

so there is very little chance of it upsetting his stomach at all
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