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    01-30-2012, 07:51 PM
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Foal
Question about sarcoids!! Please Help!!

Im looking to buy a horse to show jumper with and I come across one I that I think would be perfect so I email them asking for more information and if I could come out to test her out. That's when they tell me she has sarcoids on her eyelid....The mare is only 5years old and they said she's had them for a few months and I was told because of her age and that they were caught early enough they shouldnt come back....They want $8000 for her. Does anyone have some advice for me? Do you think its worth a shot to go look? Or just keep looking for a horse? Please help!
     
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    01-31-2012, 08:59 AM
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Sarcoids come in two forms.

The dormant brown scruffy looking bare patches with no hair on them and

The angry active ones that are all bloody and look like a raw bloody tumor.

The inactive kind can turn into the bloody tumors at any time, but usually do it after someone or something wakes them up. 'Messing' with them or putting some topical on them is how many of them get woke up.

They are best left completely alone if they are dry, flat scruffy looking spots. They have to be dealt with if they turn bloody and begin to grow.

So, what does his look like? Does he have only one? Many horses have several of them. What has a Vet said about them?

I have a horse right now with a dormant one on his eyelid. It is about the worst place for one to be because it would be very difficult to work with if it woke up. I would sure hesitate to put that much money in a horse that could have an untreatable bloody tumor on his eyelid at any time.
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    01-31-2012, 09:08 AM
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Showing
That's an interesting thread about dealing with those: Sarcoids: Toothpaste Experiment

But I agree with Cherie: eyelid seems to be the worst possible place for it. :(
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    01-31-2012, 10:21 AM
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I tried toothpaste on the bad sarcoid that my horse has now. I may not have used it long enough, but all I got was that it did not grow as fast.

It is supposedly the floride in the toothpaste that 'kills' the sarcoid. It just only works on some of them.

This horse that I have the bad sarcoid on is a horse I have owned for 12 years. He had one little dormant sarcoid on his shoulder when I bought him. He now has 7 or 8 of them and the one one the front of his face where his ear joins his forehead has been bloody and looked like a nasty tumor for 2 years now. I used Floride toothpaste first but to no avail.

A Vet removed it twice. Once he cauterized and tried to burn everything beneath the active sarcoid he removed. I did not think he got it all at the time and it started growing back immediately. It became the size of a man's fist when I had him remove it the second time. The second time he injected a Chemo-therapy drug beneath the base of it after he removed it. It still grew right back.

It again became about 3 inches in diameter. I gave up on the Vet and started putting 'Prouds Off', a caustic that has Copper Sulfate in it. It seems to be working. It is about 1/4 of the size it was. I have no edea if it will dry it completely up.

I have had sarcoids in the past and I had them removed and the area underneath the sarcoids were 'killed' with liquid Nitrogen to freeze it. The Vet did not want to do that on his ear because he was afraid it would go too deep and make a permanent hole in his ear.

A sarcoid on a horse's eyelid that becomes active would leave one with very few ways to treat the sarcoid without damaging his sight. I would probably put my old palomino gelding down if the one on his eyelid ever becomes active.
     
    01-31-2012, 10:41 AM
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Trained
A mare I had was growing a sarcoid under the saddle, just behind the scapula. My vet at the time sedated her and lasered it off (I swear he would use that thing to boil water through, he loved it). Never came back, but neither did the hair.

As far as on an eyelid, I would be wary. If it was completely removed then it will probably be ok but in the PPE I would get your vets opinion.

Good luck!
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    01-31-2012, 11:01 AM
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Trained
Sorry double post!
     
    01-31-2012, 12:04 PM
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Weanling
Removal of sarcoids can be expensive......so I guess I would think twice about buying a horse with sarcoids especially since the price tag is more than I would ever pay for a horse.

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    01-31-2012, 12:13 PM
  #8
Trained
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Originally Posted by Super Nova    
Removal of sarcoids can be expensive......so I guess I would think twice about buying a horse with sarcoids especially since the price tag is more than I would ever pay for a horse.

Super Nova
The point of this thread is not to judge what the OP's budget for a horse purchase is.
     
    01-31-2012, 12:21 PM
  #9
Showing
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Originally Posted by Cherie    
I gave up on the Vet and started putting 'Prouds Off', a caustic that has Copper Sulfate in it.
Proudsoff Proud Flesh Ointment 3-Ounce ?

I know there is a prescribed ointment you can use and it does make a huge mess (I discussed it with the vet last year).
     
    01-31-2012, 12:29 PM
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Weanling
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Originally Posted by ~*~anebel~*~    
The point of this thread is not to judge what the OP's budget for a horse purchase is.
That is not what I am doing.......its just a cost ratio thing for me if I was buying a horse with a higher price ticket I would expect it not to be lame, not to have sarcoids, and too be conformationaly correct etc.

Now if I was to be given that horse and the sarcoid was the only issue I might consider the horse depending on the location of the sarcoid.....but again it would depend on my original budget.

But if your budget is $15,000.00 and you find a horse for $8500.00 with a sarcoid then you might consider buying the horse with the sarcoid as you would be within your budget.......the only risk would be could you get rid of it permanately???

My point is it is expensive so make sure its in your budget and that you would be happy with the horse if you could not get rid of it. I personally would not be.

Super Nova
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