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    01-09-2012, 10:35 PM
  #1
Weanling
Question about Strangles

If a property had strangles go through it a year ago, how long would it need to be unoccupied for it to be safe to put horses back on? I've heard that strangles could stick around in the grass, etc. for up to a year. I don't know enough about the virus.

I am thinking of looking at a horse that is on a property that had a bought of strangles go through the herd a little over a year ago. The horses were off the property for 4-6 months this summer, but there are horses there now. Supposedly this horse is fully up to date on her vaccines, including strangles, but I'm worried about bringing her to our barn. We have been offered an unlimited trial (yeah, unlimited time...hard to pass up) but I don't want to bring a horse back that could potentially infect everyone else. I will have her vetted almost immediately upon taking her, but there will likely be a few days between. She'd be kept seperate from the others for a while just in case, but what are the risks?

If I don't make sense, please ask for clarification...I'm going to try to call the vet tomorrow, but I have a hard time being able to answer my phone during the day.
     
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    01-09-2012, 10:39 PM
  #2
Weanling
I don't know alot about strangles but I've never heard of it staying in the grass, I've heard it stays on wood for a long time . Id ask a vet, or maybe someone who has delt with strangles befor
     
    01-10-2012, 12:32 AM
  #3
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Strangles is NOT a virus. It is a Streptococcus Bacteria -- like strep throat.

Horses can be inappearant carriers for as long as 6 months and can pass the bacteria to healthy horses. Some of these carriers are horses that have recovered and others are horses that never showed symptoms.

It is NOT true that it persists on a property. The bacteria does not have a persistent or dormant form like Clostridium bacteria do (think Tetanus and Botulism). It is an old wives' tale that it lasts longer than a few weeks at the most.

It is also an old wives' tale that once a horse has it, that horse can never get it again. They usually do not get it for several years, but they are not immune to it for life.
     
    01-10-2012, 01:10 AM
  #4
Green Broke
If your horses are UTD on their vaccines, including strangles, there shouldn't be anything to worry about.
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    01-10-2012, 01:26 AM
  #5
Trained
I wouldn't worry unduly about it, but I would keep the new horse away from the current horses for at least 30 days. Not necessarily far away, but say in an end stall with an empty one in between so there can be no nose touching.
     
    01-10-2012, 04:03 AM
  #6
Yearling
When we had strangles affect only one horse on the property we were put on three months isolation. After that all the horses were free to come and go. None of mine contracted it fortunately - the horse that gotstrangles was grazing at the other end of the property. Mine are not vaccinated for strangles as it is not the most succesful vaccination.
     
    01-10-2012, 07:43 AM
  #7
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The vaccination can be more dangerous than the disease. I know of several horses that have died from Purpura Hemoragica after being vaccinated.
     
    01-10-2012, 09:02 AM
  #8
dee
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Cherie - was that the IM vaccine or the nasal vaccine? Daughter's horse was vaccinated for strangles before being sent to the trainer's. She didn't have any problem, and the vet didn't mention any danger with regards to the nasal vaccine he used.

Of course, there is always a risk with any type of vaccine - granted, some are riskier than others...
     
    01-10-2012, 09:03 AM
  #9
Foal
Good info here
Strangles in Horses
     
    01-10-2012, 09:31 AM
  #10
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by Fowl Play    
If a property had strangles go through it a year ago, how long would it need to be unoccupied for it to be safe to put horses back on?

I am thinking of looking at a horse that is on a property that had a bought of strangles go through the herd a little over a year ago. The horses were off the property for 4-6 months this summer, but there are horses there now. Supposedly this horse is fully up to date on her vaccines, including strangles, but I'm worried about bringing her to our barn.

She'd be kept seperate from the others for a while just in case, but what are the risks?
Step does not live away from the host. Yes, it can be carried from barn to barn by a farrier, trainer or vet if they are unaware a horse they have handled is shedding the bacteria.

No matter where a horse comes from, we quarantine a mimimum of one week. If through a sales barn or from out of state, up to a month. The horse in quaratine is fed last. If I have to contact it for any reason, I change my outer layer of clothing and disinfect my boots.

The intranasal vaccine is the most effective. However, no vaccine is 100%.
     

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