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    05-30-2013, 01:59 PM
  #1
Weanling
Question concerning sedation

HI. I have had my mare a year now and she is 16 years old. I have an appointment for a dental for her tomorrow. I saw a hook the other day and she has started to ball a little of her hay. I contacted her previous owner and asked her to check with her vet for her prior history for dentals as I like to have a little background for my vet. Well lo and behold she has never had a dental! My concern now is regarding the sedation. I can request a hand float only if she will allow it but I think a power float would do a much more thorough job however due to her age and never being sedated before is this a bad idea? I will obviously tell my vet this info but just wanted to get an opinion and/or see if others had been in this situation etc. I tend to worry. ;) Thanks!
     
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    05-30-2013, 02:56 PM
  #2
Green Broke
Some horses are Happy Juice sensitive.

Tennessee Walkers are known for being drug sensitive. I have one that can't have much of anything; half tablet of Bute will drop him to his knees and the Happy Juice he needed for a power float wouldn't phase two whiskers on a Quarter Horse

That would be my only word of caution. Let the vet know the mare has never had her teeth done, most likely never sedated and please proceed with caution

Never having had her teeth worked on, power float or manual, my guess is the vet will automatically want to sedate her.

My horses know the drill and never get sedated for the standard manual float. Love their Hearts, they stand there with that "oh crap" look and figure the quieter they are, the faster that awful thing will get taken out of their mouths

When power floats are involved, it would be sheer stupidity to NOT tranq the horse. One jerk and the drill could rub thru the roof of the mouth, where there is an artery right on the other side of the "wall" .
     
    05-30-2013, 03:17 PM
  #3
Foal
Just warn your vet ahead of time and they should proceed with caution. One aged mare we had done got a half dose as a "test" to see how that would work, knowing we could finish the other half if needed.
And Power Float to me = sedation to be on the safe side; though I know folks who don't.

My TB gelding has a note in his file that he gets a QUARTER dose of sedation if we desire him to remain standing (for ANY procedure). A "normal" dose pretty much tells him it is naptime and down he drops to sleep it off (snoring including *lol*). Another horse gets a double-dose because he is so drug-resistant it isnt funny.
     
    05-30-2013, 03:43 PM
  #4
Green Broke
16 really isn't that old and shouldn't be any more dangerous that sedating a younger horse. As others have said, let your vet know that she's possibly never been sedated so she can be extra careful with dosage.
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    05-30-2013, 03:49 PM
  #5
Super Moderator
We have our 17 year old sedated for dental - we've tried without each year and she just gets dangerous - such a good girl in every other way. It has no bad effect on her but you should discuss with your vet if you think she may be over sensitive to drugs
     
    05-30-2013, 03:56 PM
  #6
Yearling
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Originally Posted by walkinthewalk    
Some horses are Happy Juice sensitive.

Tennessee Walkers are known for being drug sensitive. I have one that can't have much of anything; half tablet of Bute will drop him to his knees and the Happy Juice he needed for a power float wouldn't phase two whiskers on a Quarter Horse

That would be my only word of caution. Let the vet know the mare has never had her teeth done, most likely never sedated and please proceed with caution

Never having had her teeth worked on, power float or manual, my guess is the vet will automatically want to sedate her.

My horses know the drill and never get sedated for the standard manual float. Love their Hearts, they stand there with that "oh crap" look and figure the quieter they are, the faster that awful thing will get taken out of their mouths

When power floats are involved, it would be sheer stupidity to NOT tranq the horse. One jerk and the drill could rub thru the roof of the mouth, where there is an artery right on the other side of the "wall" .
My app is the opposite of your walkers! Last time we did a float he had to be sedated twice! He ate through the regular dose halfway through the float. My aunt said their apps tend to eat through sedation pretty quick.
     
    05-30-2013, 05:09 PM
  #7
Green Broke
^^^^ you're getting both sides of the Happy Juice story, I hope we haven't put the fear of death into the tooth proceedings

To reiterate everyone's comments, just make sure the vet knows your horse may have never been sedated.

MGTS comment about testing with half dose is a great idea - especially since half dose is about all one of my Walkers can tolerate, if that; my 13.3H Arab gets a bigger dose
     
    05-31-2013, 02:41 AM
  #8
Yearling
My 28 year old qh gelding gets sedated every year for floating with no ill effects. He doesn't need a strong dose just enough to take the edge off but he's another one that it doesn't take much to conk him out.
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    05-31-2013, 02:50 AM
  #9
Green Broke
My 32 yr olds get sedated. If not the one will rear, and strike. He takes a heavy dose, and the two others get a regular dose.
     
    05-31-2013, 03:21 AM
  #10
Super Moderator
My 28 year old Arab has to be sedated out of her minnnnnnd to be floated.
This year the vet had to give her, I believe, double the dose for a 1000lb horse....and Lacey was STILL fighting it pretty hard!
It was a bit traumatizing at first since Lacey was wobbling allll over the place and I was worried that she might fall. But she didn't and, once I got over my nerves, I realized that she was awake enough to keep herself up.

Anyway, hopefully that doesn't have to happen for you but don't be surprised if she has to be put scarily out of it - your girl will be fine. :)

[and I second/triple/whatever the other posters!]
     

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