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    07-28-2013, 04:27 PM
Originally Posted by konikirule    
In keeping the horse standing, why don't you give the man hanging the reins, so he can hold the horse under him, but maybe after a few days the horses struggle to leave will get stronger and he will finally rip the reins out of the hands of the weak hanging man?

Wait there's hope!

Option 1: Give the man the reins. If the man held the reins he could force the horse to not leave?

Option 2: Tie the horse to the tree. How long would the horse stay there if he was tied? Wouldn't he try to run, rear up, etc? How long before he did that?
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    07-28-2013, 04:32 PM
If the man and the horse had an incredible bond, let's not tie the horse to the tree. Even bad guys will respect a horse as a useful working animal that has no connection to his master. Let's pull him off, and smack the horse on the rump in movie-western style and have the horse run away from the scene. He get's to watch his horse disappear over the horizon while still surrounded by the enemy. They prop him up on the rickety box to hang when his strength gives out, bag over the head for that added evil touch. They get him set up and leave. When he escapes, all he has to do is call his horse back to him and they ride off to defeat the bad guy.
    07-28-2013, 04:34 PM
Originally Posted by LadyDreamer    
If the man is holding the reins, he is not bound. If he is not bound, he could just remove the noose as soon as the bad guys left.

I'd say tie the horse to a tree(though even bad guys know not to punish the horse, they would probably just take the horse), put the guy on a box blindfolded and wait for the man's legs to give out. If he escapes, he is out in the middle of the wilderness with no horse.
His hands could be tied but infront of him. Holding the reins really only requires one hand and that would make it easier for the horse to escape !
    07-28-2013, 04:48 PM
Green Broke
IMO, you have to decide at the onset if the horse in question is a "Trigger type" horse that we're all just sure would stand there "forever" so Roy Rogers wouldn't hang.

ORRRRR is this some horse the rider is recently acquainted with or their chance meeting was the day of the hanging and the horse could care less about "screen loyalty" to the rider, just where the next tasty morsel of grass and drinking water might be:)

Establish that at before the hanging sequence, then we might be able to better answer your questions:)
    07-28-2013, 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by scout1979    
Wait there's hope!

Option 1: Give the man the reins. If the man held the reins he could force the horse to not leave?

Option 2: Tie the horse to the tree. How long would the horse stay there if he was tied? Wouldn't he try to run, rear up, etc? How long before he did that?
If he was tied to a post or tree he would stand for a day or so but then start to get antsy and it all really matters how you display it. You could make him pulling at the post for another day and on the third day let him run loose, or make him break away from the post after one pull
    07-28-2013, 04:55 PM
Also, this is a movie. I respect you greatly for wanting to be accurate, but if you want the horse there for a week, it is within the realm of movie magic to do so... horse owners will complain and give you that "Hmph! That would never happen." all day long. No matter what you do, people are going to find something to complain about.

I mean MY GOD. They fricking destroyed Silver in the new Lone Ranger(and every other character...and everything else). They had Silver perched in a fricking tree at one point, not to mention galloping atop a train. GAAAHHH! That movie made me so very upset. He wasn't a magical spirit horse. He was just a random horse they found and saved from a buffalo in Wild Horse Valley, who decided after being nursed back to health that he should remain with the Lone Ranger. Goodness, I love that episode. "If he wants to go, he should be free."
    07-28-2013, 05:25 PM
Wow does this thinktank overthink things! Hobble it. It will stand there until it falls down. That being said, it would still have to be offered food and water a few times a day, and it's likely to get pretty pissed off after the first 8 hours or so.

FYI, it is not necessary for the rugged cowboy to haul on the horse's mouth and jerk it's head sharply to the side to gallop off into the sunset. Just a little film pet peeve of mine.
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    07-28-2013, 06:30 PM
I'm pretty sure my horse would last 10 seconds. He would be bored out of his mind standing around.
    07-28-2013, 06:52 PM
Originally Posted by scout1979    
Also very useful info. What are your thoughts on the max amount of time you could expect a horse to stay there? Let's say it had a large feedbag -the bad guys want the man on the horse to suffer for days, not hours! (nasty bad guys!)
In that case have the bad guys stand him on a fence post.
    07-28-2013, 07:03 PM
Green Broke
I say give the hangee (or is it hanger?) the reins but in the guy's mouth, hands tied behind back in the usual dastardly fashion - it is the movies after all.

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