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    03-03-2014, 12:50 AM
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Foal
Quittor or Abscess ???

Hi Guys,

Just wanting your opinions. My mare has been suffering from recurring hoof infection/inflammation which I have been trying to treat for the last 8 months.

I've been through 3 vets so far and not much success. Originally we thought it was an abscess so the vet cut away at the hoof so that they could pack it with antibiotics to see if it would burst that way but now I've been told it is Quittor.

Due to my location, I have only just been able to get an xray (vet's mobile xray machine kept breaking and being sent away for repair and no one else was available to do xrays)

It appears that the part of the bone has been eaten away by the infection. I guess at this stage I am wondering how to make her comfortable. The vet has suggested an eggbar shoe.
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    03-03-2014, 01:29 AM
  #2
Started
Why does she have no heal? For this I would suggest an easy shoe. It allows movement and is somewhat like a sneaker for horses. It will have more cushion than a metal shoe. Do you know what is causing the infection? Is she on antibiotics for it?

https://www.easycareinc.com/our_shoes/easyshoe.aspx
     
    03-03-2014, 02:07 AM
  #3
Foal
I was not there when the vet cut away at her hoof so that she could pack it with antibiotics. If I was, I wouldn't have agreed to it because I think part of the reason it's still swollen is the concussion from walking on it.

I believe the infection was from a deep puncture, you can see it in one of the photos I think...

She was on oral antibiotics for quite a while but after the antibiotics stopped the swelling and heat would return. Then the vet cut away at the hoof and put the antibiotics straight on the hoof.

She's had a shots of penicillin.

The xray seems to indicate that the infection is gone but was a little unclear and the vet is getting back to me on it.

I'll take a look at the easy show. Thanks
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    03-03-2014, 02:18 AM
  #4
Started
Np :). I think glue on shoes would benefit her. I don't see her letting someone hammer a nail in her hoof. Looks like it hurts.
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    03-03-2014, 05:13 AM
  #5
Trained
Yeah, sounds like it's possibly quittor - essentially infection of the lateral cartilages. If it's infected the bone, very serious & while I like the sound of the new Easyshoes generally, I think a very aggressive(poss surgical) treatment may now be necessary & eggbars or such - NOT flexible - may be necessary to stabilise the area.
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    03-03-2014, 05:49 AM
  #6
Foal
Yeah I'm very limited in what I can get around my area hence why I've gone to the internet for answers haha. I do like the idea of the glue on shoe because at the moment there's nothing to nail too but maybe in a few months that might be a option once it's grown a bit.

Is there any way that she might recover enough to be ridden lightly again?

Currently I can't even lunge her so I'm teaching her tricks to keep her entertained. She's too smart to be sitting in a paddock on her own and she's only 6.
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    03-03-2014, 09:31 AM
  #7
Weanling
Gosh, poor thing, that looks painful! Hope she's better soon. I've nothing further to add, except you will get some good advice here, loosie is particularly helpful on hoof issues, as is Patty if she's somewhere about ...
     
    03-03-2014, 12:07 PM
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If part of the bone is eaten away you have bone infection. I have had to deal with bone infection twice on my own horses and a couple of times with horses belonging to others.

One of mine was from a hot nail and the infection went in instead of breaking out because a Vet really messed it up by digging instead of just letting it come to the coronet like it should have. I still have this horse some 15 years later after finally getting the infection cleared up. I have also had several joint infections that I have also cleared up.

The other coffin bone infection was much worse. It was a nail puncture where the dirty nail actually hit the coffin bone. That horse was eventually put down.

If you have any chance of clearing up a bone infection or a joint infection, it will take aggressive antibiotic treatment with a very powerful antibiotic. I have cleared mine up with injectable Gentmicin or with Chloramphenicol. I gave the first horse 2 IV shots a day of Gentomicin (or Gentocin) for 35 or 40 days. Gentocin is supposed to be very hard on the liver and kidneys, so I took blood serum into the Vet clinic once a week to check blood values. Luckily, I had no toxicity problems. Prolonged use of this drug can cause complete liver or renal failure in some individuals. I did not have anything to lose (nor did the horse), but frequent serum tests will show it before it gets serious. This horse's bone infection cleared up completely and the black spot on the coffin bone even filled back in over the years. She went on to be a top heading horse in the roping pen.

Chloramphenicol is quite another matter. In some places it has been completely outlawed because it is very persistent in milk and meat. It would actually be my 'drug of choice' if you can get it. I can only get in on a Vet prescription from a compounding Pharmacy. I do not know if that is even an option where you are. If it is, you can get it made into a paste and can give 1 gram 2X a day orally. I have had it clear up every joint infection I have worked with. Fantastic stuff but very difficult to get. It takes someone going the extra mile for you. I got a University Vet School to get it for me on the condition that I reported back to them on results, etc. I also cleared up Pseudomonas infections in both stallions and broodmares with it. They were supposed to untreatable according to the Vet School and the horses were scheduled to be put down.

This kind of infection (bone infection or joint infection) will never clear up with ordinary antibiotics like Penicillin or Sulfa. This kind of infection will only respond to a very powerful antibiotic that that is specific to gram negative rod infections.
     
    03-04-2014, 02:07 PM
  #9
Yearling
I just love it when Cherie rides in to the rescue. :)
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    03-04-2014, 02:49 PM
  #10
Started
I would give that information to a vet an now. The longer you wait the longer it will take to fix.
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