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post #1 of 11 Old 06-11-2011, 12:26 PM Thread Starter
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Receding frog? Is that possible?

Hi guys,
I feel like a complete bone head with some of the questions I ask sometimes, but here goes another one.

I was picking Butch's feet the other day and I noticed that his right front frog looked really odd to me. I went back and forth between the two front, lifting and checking and noticed that the frog on the one foot was really... recessed? It's really deep inside his hoof if that makes any sense? He just had his feet done last week, so they aren't over grown or anything.

I couldn't get pictures because I didn't have my camera, I will Sunday, but in the meantime I was hoping someone could advise me on this. It looks as if it would be uncomfortable, but he is not lame at all, and it didn't bother him for me to play around with it.

Butch is the first horse I've ever been responsible for and so I am very unfamiliar with ... well, a lot of things and I do tend to over react but I like to be sure.

So, anyone have a clue what might be causing this? Is it normal? I tried Google and well, I came up with a bunch of pictures and articles about frog frogs. You know, ribbit and all that. Total frustration.

Thanks in advance for any replies!

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post #2 of 11 Old 06-12-2011, 01:14 PM Thread Starter
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Ok, I found some information, but nothing that is helpful.
I guess frogs can deteriorate. Ok, got it. But, what do I do about it? Is it harmful?
I've scoured the web and I can't find ANYTHING useful.

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Is it just smaller, or is it flaky/peeling/black/goopy?
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Subbing to wait for pics... Please ensure hooves are clean and brushed. We need side and sole shots minimum and preferably a full on side and front of the horse.

Is there any foul smell coming off the foot?
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post #5 of 11 Old 06-13-2011, 06:50 AM Thread Starter
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I will get pics Wednesday, I promise. I took the camera yesterday and the dratted thing died on me.
There is no smell, no gook, white or black. Nothing. It is a bit flaky, though. The frog just seems incredibly deep in his hoof is all. He also just recently got a pretty good crack in that same foot. I don't know whether to attribute them to each other in some way, or if my horse is clumsy or if I should be speaking with my farrier.

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post #6 of 11 Old 06-13-2011, 07:42 AM
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I will get pics Wednesday, I promise. I took the camera yesterday and the dratted thing died on me.
There is no smell, no gook, white or black. Nothing. It is a bit flaky, though. The frog just seems incredibly deep in his hoof is all. He also just recently got a pretty good crack in that same foot. I don't know whether to attribute them to each other in some way, or if my horse is clumsy or if I should be speaking with my farrier.
Frogs do shed....Pictures would help.
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post #7 of 11 Old 06-13-2011, 08:20 AM
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Frogs do shed....Pictures would help.
That was my first thought too. Not something I would worry too much about. If the hooves were just trimmed, and there was something wrong, the farrier would probably have said something.

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post #8 of 11 Old 06-13-2011, 08:28 AM
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Is the recessed frog in that right front hoof something new or has it always been that way and you happened to see the recent difference in that frogs appearance? It could be that the frog is shedding and it just appears to have receded from the presence of shedding tissue.

To help you research online on your search engine look into finding "journeyman farrier" websites. Most of those websites have question and answer forums. Just a word of caution though about researching a subject like yours, sometimes the info can cause you more undue concern and worry. Trust me I have done exactly that my ownself when researching something. Just look at what you find and read as educating yourself then put only what sounds reasonable in your 'memory bank'.

Asking many questions is not being "bone headed". It is the unasked question that can be not a good thing when it should be of utmost importance.
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Hi, Yeah, agree with others, that it could likely be something that needs to be dealt with, is indicative of a problem, but it may not be too much of a concern either. Given that it's only one foot, could possibly be that you're looking at a 'club foot' too. It does indicate his heels aren't working very well for him, but without more details & pics, can't tell how/why or how bad/minor.

Hoofrehab.com is a good source of info, both on how hooves function & should be, as well as how/why things go wrong.
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post #10 of 11 Old 06-14-2011, 10:57 AM Thread Starter
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I'll be out there tomorrow to get pictures. I'm also going to bug my BO/farrier who I've been missing each time I go out there because he works like a million hours a week.
Thank you guys for the suggestions! I truly appreciate it.
I agree that in researching I will probably give myself more to be worried about, that is 'probably' not the case, but, I would rather KNOW everything and be worried more than not to know and think it is something minor and have it be detrimental.
I worry so much since he is 22 miles from me and I only get there 4 days a week, sometimes 3, and I am not always there to see how he acting/reacting or spot symptoms of anything IMMEDIATELY.
Candy: It is definitely new. I've been ridiculous about picking his feet because it has been so wet lately, and it was the same as the other feet last week. Maybe he just shed a little more on that foot, like you said. No idea. And I don't know what club foot is, but I will look that up also.
Thanks again for the advice. I will get pics tomorrow and in the meantime I will check out the websites/searches you guys suggested.

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