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    04-16-2011, 01:53 AM
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Foal
Reconditioning: Weak neck and Sun Fade. Bringing Kate back.

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So, I've been working her for about 6 hours each, 3 days a week. She is putting weight on now, but her coat condition still has room for improvement. The other horses have shed out already but she is still rough looking. I groom her extensively every other day. I have been giving her a cup of corn oil to help with the weight and coat. I so desperately want to get her back in shape. She was a stabled horse and did not adapt well right away to open pasture. She is starting to get the hang of herd life, but I'd really like to get her nice robust body and coat back. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    04-16-2011, 02:55 AM
  #2
Trained
I don't think there's much you can do about the sunfade other than put a sheet on her when she's out in the sun. She was darker before because she was stabled. Some black horses fade like that.
     
    04-16-2011, 03:39 AM
  #3
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Paprika is *supposed* to help with black coats, but I have no personal experience and that's all just hearsay. Google it for feeding instructions.

I don't know what sort of feed you've got her on, but I'd say she needs some sort of protein. The corn oil is a good idea already. It's that topline where she's really lacking, and in addition to a good feed program, she needs to be ridden properly (and well-padded to prevent soreness). Lots of suppling, hill work, trying to work in frame (but allowing her time to relax and stretch, too, since she is so out of shape).

A few tack points I couldn't help from notice from the pictures, though:

In the 'before,' the curb chain is on the wrong part of the bit--it should be on the top ring where the bridle attaches. In the 'now,' the halter underneath the noseband is causing the muzzle ring to dig into her nose, which is probably uncomfortable. Just didn't want you getting hurt from equipment malfunctions...
     
    04-16-2011, 11:50 AM
  #4
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Originally Posted by Raidress    

So, I've been working her for about 6 hours each, 3 days a week. She is putting weight on now, but her coat condition still has room for improvement. The other horses have shed out already but she is still rough looking. I groom her extensively every other day. I have been giving her a cup of corn oil to help with the weight and coat. I so desperately want to get her back in shape. She was a stabled horse and did not adapt well right away to open pasture. She is starting to get the hang of herd life, but I'd really like to get her nice robust body and coat back. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Part of the key to having a healthy horse is a balance between the workload and the "free" time.

NO WAY NO HOW would I EVER work my horse more than 1 hour a day and only on show days would he have to put out more ( but even there he is rested whenever possible).

The way the horse's coat behaves...such as matted, rough, dull ...reflects the care given to the horse. What I see is an overworked horse by an owner that doesn't seem to have either equipment or equestrian knowledge.
     
    04-16-2011, 01:26 PM
  #5
Banned
I totally missed the six hours a day part the first time around. Sure hope that's a typo....

The condition of your pasture (and is all of that loose junkyard stuff in with the horses?) is pretty poor, so unless you're supplementing with free choice quality hay, that could be a big part of her weight loss.
     
    04-16-2011, 03:43 PM
  #6
Yearling
Quite a change! I wouldn't be half as worried about her coat, but since you are you could keep her stalled during the day while the sun is out and turn her out at night...or go to extremes with sheets and such to keep her covered but that is not something I would suggest.

What is her complete diet? How much & what kind of hay, grain, supplements, etc is she getting? That is the MAJOR part of what will give her good body coniditon, a nice shiny coat and not to mention good hoof health.

Working her 6 hours a day? That's...extreme, put nicely. You can't expect her to gain any weight (or muscle, without decent weight) with that amount of work. Agree with the poster that said hope that's a typo! I don't think she needs a whole lot of weight gain, but she desperately lacks muscle. What do her workouts include?
     
    04-16-2011, 04:52 PM
  #7
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Originally Posted by Raidress    
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Do I recognize this person ( even though the back is towards us) as a former member here?
     
    04-16-2011, 05:20 PM
  #8
Yearling
That is one nice backside...
     
    04-16-2011, 09:36 PM
  #9
Foal
Well, I am not rich by any means. I am doing the best I can. We have 200 acres here and the grass is coming in and she is started to get some padding. We have been doing a lot of riding to help build up her muscle mass, which is what I have been told to do. The debris is where my uncle is tearing down an old barn and I have no control over that. I have since changed her halter to one that fits. I have no control over the way the previous owners have their tack. What I have been told is that she had a hard transition into herd life and was not used to forage and it will take time for her to adjust.

She gets about half a bucket of sweet feed before and after our ride plus her oil, and salt.

I am a horse science minor and have also consulted my professors about improving her condition. 6 Hours a couple of times a week on the trails does not seem like too much to me, and my horse enjoys it herself. I am a worry wart however, and want to make sure I am doing what I can to help her get back on the right foot.

I'm certainly disappointed to see that people on this forum want to insult me rather than give me good advice. I come here to learn. Not to be belittled for the reason that I came her in the first place. She is my first horse.
     
    04-16-2011, 09:47 PM
  #10
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Raidress    
Well, I am not rich by any means. I am doing the best I can. We have 200 acres here and the grass is coming in and she is started to get some padding. We have been doing a lot of riding to help build up her muscle mass, which is what I have been told to do. The debris is where my uncle is tearing down an old barn and I have no control over that. I have since changed her halter to one that fits. I have no control over the way the previous owners have their tack. What I have been told is that she had a hard transition into herd life and was not used to forage and it will take time for her to adjust.

I am a horse science minor and have also consulted my professors about improving her condition. 6 Hours a couple of times a week on the trails does not seem like too much to me, and my horse enjoys it herself. I am a worry wart however, and want to make sure I am doing what I can to help her get back on the right foot.

I'm certainly disappointed to see that people on this forum want to insult me rather than give me good advice.
Six hours, for a horse in that condition, is way too much. She could still use a little weight, you'll never get her to gain it (or gain muscle) if you keep working her like that. For muscle gaining, it's not about how long you ride but what the ride consists of (ex. Moving properly, long and low stretching, trotting, backing, hill work if you have them) - horses need to be conditioned and in shape to do 6 hour rides. You shouldn't have to ride that long unless you want to, and the horse (based on the pictures) doesn't seem to be benefitting from it. (not an insult...just what I'm seeing)

I haven't seen ANYONE insult you. When you come on a horse forum, you are going to get all kinds of different opinions (and that is what you've gotten, not insults) but until you can see that everyone is just trying to help and at least listen to what they say (you don't HAVE to do what anyone says obviously, but please at least listen and be willing to learn), there's not much *we* can do for you. Alot of these people have years and years of experience and knowledge, I would use it to your advantage.
     

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