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post #1 of 21 Old 05-27-2011, 07:25 PM Thread Starter
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Rings on hooves?

Within the past two weeks I've noticed indents in Kitty's hooves and I was just wondering if anyone had any idea what they could've been caused by. She has shown no signs of sensitivity or heat in her legs or hooves. We got her in the end of December and her diet has changed as well as her work schedual. Thank you in advanced.
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post #2 of 21 Old 05-27-2011, 09:29 PM
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IMO your diet is working

Those "rings" you see are the new growth of the hoof that meets the old growth (the stuff that was there when you bought her). The new growth looks thicker and healthier, whereas the old growth is thinner, although not bad. The girl may just be getting better vitamins and minerals, and therefore her feet are growing in better. I wouldn't worry about the rings unless they crack. Most of the time these are normal with a diet change or supplement. They will most likely go away when her old growth grows out and is clipped off.

Once again, just my opinion, but I think it means that her feet are on the right track

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Has she been sound throughout all of this?
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Good diet and environment change :)My farrier just dismissed my geldings rings and explained that they change with environment and diet. :) the rings on my gelding were aged to be just before we got him.
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IMO your diet is working

Those "rings" you see are the new growth of the hoof that meets the old growth (the stuff that was there when you bought her). The new growth looks thicker and healthier, whereas the old growth is thinner, although not bad. The girl may just be getting better vitamins and minerals, and therefore her feet are growing in better. I wouldn't worry about the rings unless they crack. Most of the time these are normal with a diet change or supplement. They will most likely go away when her old growth grows out and is clipped off.

Once again, just my opinion, but I think it means that her feet are on the right track
Ok, I was thinking that what you said could be a possibility, I just wasn't sure. She's due for a trim soon so I'll still get the farrier to check it out.

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Has she been sound throughout all of this?
She has only been "ouchy" right after we trimmed her the first time (she hadn't been trimmed in around 6 months and even so, I don't know if an actual farrier did it). Also, for the past couple of days she's seemed a little stiff but it's been rainy lately and it is very slippery. When I was working Monday morning all of the horses were running and jumping around and I personally witnessed two horses who slipped and fell hard.


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Good diet and environment change :)My farrier just dismissed my geldings rings and explained that they change with environment and diet. :) the rings on my gelding were aged to be just before we got him.
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Hi,

Those rings may signify a laminitic event or may signify the end of an ongoing lami period, which based on the little info you've given, sounds like that is likely. Depending on how quickly her feet are growing, the change/rings happened around 2-6 months ago. Ensuring she's not overfed, correctly supplemented and kept on a low-carb, high fibre diet is so important for hooves.

She's got quite overgrown feet, so I'd be inclined to keep her well trimmed more frequently. She's quite flared all round, but it appears the top growth is a lot tighter connected, showing better diet is working. Backing up/rolling those flares so the walls aren't loaded should allow the well connected growth to come down unhindered.

Hoofrehab.com & barehoofcare.com are 2 great sites to learn a lot more about hoof care & the factors that effect this. Good Hoof Photos - How to take Good Hoof Photos is somewhere to learn about taking good pics for critique.
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Hi,

Those rings may signify a laminitic event or may signify the end of an ongoing lami period, which based on the little info you've given, sounds like that is likely. Depending on how quickly her feet are growing, the change/rings happened around 2-6 months ago. Ensuring she's not overfed, correctly supplemented and kept on a low-carb, high fibre diet is so important for hooves.

We e-mailed the pictures to our vet and she recommended that we get an x-ray done of the worst hoof just to be sure. At our current barn, there is no way of controlling the amount/type of feed she gets. However, we will be moving by the end of the month to a facility where she will receive the correct nurtients that she needs. If you have any questions that might be helpful to the situation I'd be willing to try and answer them.


She's got quite overgrown feet, so I'd be inclined to keep her well trimmed more frequently. She's quite flared all round, but it appears the top growth is a lot tighter connected, showing better diet is working. Backing up/rolling those flares so the walls aren't loaded should allow the well connected growth to come down unhindered.

In the past six months she's been trimmed around 5 times. We've been trying to find a decent farrier and it's been pretty difficult. We've got a new farrier coming out on the 11th (Requested a sooner appointment but it wasn't possible).

Hoofrehab.com & barehoofcare.com are 2 great sites to learn a lot more about hoof care & the factors that effect this. Good Hoof Photos - How to take Good Hoof Photos is somewhere to learn about taking good pics for critique.

Thank you for the websites. I know how to take decent pictures of a horses hoof. My Mom quickly took these with her phone. I have a shift at the barn tomorrow and I will definitely bring my camera and take better pictures.
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I'll post the new pictures tomorrow when I have access to my laptop. We have scheduled a farrier to come out tomorrow and give her a trim and his imput. I'll post pictures of her feet after the trim ASAP. Also, we schedualed our vet to come out either this Thursday or next Thursday (I can't remember) to come out and take an X-ray on the worst hoof.

I have a question, why would there be rings on all four hooves that resemble founder / laminitis symptoms but she has shown no signs of lameness, tenderness and there is no detectable heat in them?

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I have a question, why would there be rings on all four hooves that resemble founder / laminitis symptoms but she has shown no signs of lameness, tenderness and there is no detectable heat in them?
Because 'sub clinical' laminitis may be very mild or short lived, so you may have missed the day(s) when it was actually happening or caused discomfort. It's possible, if her feet are slow growing(from previous ill health/diet) that the actual lami 'event' happened prior to you getting her too. Lameness often only tends to happen in acute or chronic lami, as does bounding pulse, stance, etc.
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Because 'sub clinical' laminitis may be very mild or short lived, so you may have missed the day(s) when it was actually happening or caused discomfort.
"Subclinical" means there are no clinical signs/symptoms detectable, therefore one would most certainly "miss" it.

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