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Rolkur now banned in Switzerland

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#1 ·
Switzerland has enacted laws regarding the banning of hyper flexion during training and at shows. It's about time.
 
#35 ·
Thanks for the info. Out here u see it in dressage and but not a lot of English riders out here. A lot ride western. I know a girl who rides with a normal bridle but her horse does the arches head or neck or whatever there bending. I asked her why and she said cause someone showed him in the past.
 
#37 · (Edited)
anebel: I value your opinion and well lets just agree to disagree and leave it at that. I will never see rollkur as being an effective training method no matter how it is used and by whom. My mind will not be changed. LDR is not rollkur in my opinion either.
I will always be one of those "classic" ppl (not cruel classic) that beleives that with proper training methods just about anything can be achieved (note I said: Just about.) OH and I did say to take the information for whats its worth. It was something just to chew on.
 
#38 ·
Allison Finch: The photo you posted of you on your grey horse is not Rollkur. He is relaxed and light and seems rather content looking. The picture of the reigning horse is rollkur.

I guess the term Rollkur is getting muddied. Whtn I think of Rollkur I think or see this.:



Those reins are definatly cranked tight.

This is rollkur (the main picture featuring the horse in Rollkur).

FEI Round Table Conference Resolves Rollkur Controversy | eurodressage

This (being slightly behind the verticle) is not.



But I guees its all how one see Rollkur.
 
#40 ·
Since I couldn't remember Rolkurr being used by dressage riders and instructors in my youth - and amazing though it might seem to some I was actually fortunate in being exposed too and influenced by many - I searched the history of it and it seems to prior to the 80's top dressage riders managed to successfully train their horses without it. The practice of overbending a horse wasn't unheard of but was treated as a short term last resort method for a problem horse where all else had failed
According to the most informative article I found it was the trainer/husband of Anky Van Grunssvenn who decided it would be a great idea to use it as part of a general training system that he claimed was easier for a horse and rider to understand than the traditional ones used in Classical Dressage which required a higher standard of riding and training to accomplish
If riders were able to achieve good results prior to the use of Rolkurr then there's no reason why they shouldn't be able to do so again - and most of them already do
A lot of these things are just shortcuts for people who don't want to put in the hours of work needed to correctly get to the fitness levels and skill levels required for both horse and rider
 
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