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  • Hay ad lib for very fat pony

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    07-26-2012, 11:10 AM
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Green Broke
So she *should* stop engulfing herself once she realizes the hay isn't going anywhere? My worry is what if she founders?
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    07-26-2012, 02:00 PM
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Does she have any medical problems other than being an air fern?

I use rounds because I can get them for $30 for a 900lb bale. A square bale costs me $5.50. My pony is 37 yrs old. I've taken so much out of her diet at this point that I hate to take away her hay too. As long as the snow allows me to get out back with the truck I'll use rounds.
I do give her a very low NSC haystretcher to fill her up a bit, along with a handful of ration balancer. She's on grass now and does seem to limit herself. I often see her head out with the other 2 and just hang out so the other 2 can eat. I haven't had to put a muzzle on her yet. Kind of dreading that day. She will take it personally. I worry a lot more about the grass than I do the hay.
     
    07-26-2012, 02:14 PM
  #13
Green Broke
No other medical problems, just a pony who's fat off of air!

It is definitely cheaper to buy rounds. Over here it's $50 per round which are a pretty decent size. The round and square bales will be Timothy Orchard. I was thinking about doing grass hay but one of the horses that's in with mine is a Thoroughbred who can be a bit hard to keep weight on in the winter. So it's hard to accommodate both when I have two horses who need opposite things.

I do have a muzzle on her now though for half the day and she seems to be doing great. I hate the muzzle and she's totally miserable with it on. I feel bad, but I don't have any other options.

ETA- with the muzzle on she will not eat. She will stand around waiting for me to come back and take it off. She is also fed a tiny bit of grain in the am along with her supplements. I'm sure I can muzzle her in the winter too but I'd hate to do that to her. But am not sure what other options I have.
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    07-26-2012, 02:22 PM
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I have feed round bales for years. I sit them on end cut the strings and feed out each day what they need. This was you wast less and do not have any problems.

If you do not wish to do this there are feeders what you put around the bales that keep them to gether and anouther one that slows them down. I will see if I can find the link.
     
    07-26-2012, 02:26 PM
  #15
Green Broke
I buy hay from whomever has the quality I want at the best price. I currently have Timothy (thicker stem, more of a filler hay) from one guy, straight alfalfa from another and straight grass from a 3rd.

I keep my hay at my place and my horse is boarded elsewhere and since some of it is in 4x4x8 bales, what I did was buy a dozen muck tubs in hot pink. I pre-portion out his hay in the tubs, so all you have to do is take a couple tubs and then clip them to a fence panel with giant caribeaners and twine loops (so if for some reason there was a problem, the twine would break).

I bought them in hot pink so they don't get mixed up with the ones that are used as muck buckets.
     
    07-26-2012, 10:44 PM
  #16
Green Broke
So my one supplier for round bales completely bailed out on me so now I'm off looking for someone else. I did find someone who is selling Timothy grass mix That looks really good.

What is the difference between a Tim-Orchard mix and Tim-grass mix?

I would like the keep the horses on either Timothy or Orchard, even a mix of the two would be wonderful if I could even find it. Alls I keep seeing is either orchard grass mix or a Tim grass mix but I'm nervous I'll make the horses sick...im over paranoid.
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    07-27-2012, 05:39 AM
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So my one supplier for round bales completely bailed out on me so now I'm off looking for someone else. I did find someone who is selling Timothy grass mix That looks really good.

What is the difference between a Tim-Orchard mix and Tim-grass mix?

I would like the keep the horses on either Timothy or Orchard, even a mix of the two would be wonderful if I could even find it. Alls I keep seeing is either orchard grass mix or a Tim grass mix but I'm nervous I'll make the horses sick...im over paranoid.
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This is really interesting to me as in the UK we buy Hay, or Haylage. We never know or ask the type of grass and I think if we did the farmer would look at us like we'd stepped off the moon! There is an argument that if you are changing hay supplier you should try to mix the old and the new over a couple of days - but most people don't or can't do this.

On the fat pony/ad lib hay laminitis issue I would say this:

If you're pony is already obese, then you should be cautious. Ditto if it has had laminitis in the past. If it is a normal healthy weight, then you should expect the onset of cold weather to balance out the increase in calories that ad lib hay will give. Watch him over the first days and if he's blowing up like a balloon then it's probably not yet cold enough for all that hay!
     

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