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    02-13-2010, 09:32 AM
runny stools?

A few weeks ago cutter got some really moldy hay. I took it away as soon as I saw him eating it, but he probubly ate a fair amount of it. So, I put him on probios for 2 weeks, and his diarhea(sp?) has turned tojust liquid coming out after he poops. He's always had just alittle liquid come out, so this wasnt worrying me, until my BO decided she felt he needed more performance feed so she changed it without my permission, and when I changed it back, she changed it again. Ever since she upped cutters performance feed by doubling it, his loose stools have gotten worse. He's still on probios, but I was wondering if anyone has any advice. I will be calling the vet this weekend, and cutter is UTD on worming.shots, etc.
My BO is deturmined that her upping his performance feed would have no effect on his digestive system, but I really think that's what it was. The moldy hay was about 3 weeks ago now, and like I said he had gotten better before she upped the grain. (cutters at a healthy weight, always has clean water availiable, and has a mineral block in his stall which he loves)
What do you guys think?
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    02-13-2010, 09:58 AM
Diahrea in horses is very serious and you should have called as soon as you noticed it. It was probably from contaminated feed rather than the amount but I would drop the hammer on the BO and make sure she understood that under no circumstances was she to change anything with your horse.
    02-13-2010, 11:19 AM
I agree with kevin on dealing with the BO. That is your horse and she has no right to do anything with his feed without your full permission.

And I would def have the vet out. Since your going to be having the vet out I think you will be fine. Sometimes we get a moldy bale at the ranch I work at. Im always careful to look the hay over an not feed anything with mold but some of the other workers don't really care. Moldy hay can cause diahrea...thats for sure...but if he has been getting nothing but good hay and you have been giving him probios that should have cleared up after 3 weeks.
    02-13-2010, 12:23 PM
Change in feed can/does cause change in stool, but it does sound like the rich feed he's getting is causing this. I noticed a big change in Sun when his feed is too rich or too lean. Talk to the BO. It sounds like there isn't any real communication between you and the BO, so you're both taking different tactics. Don't accuse the BO, just sit down and talk, tell the BO about your concerns, etc.
    02-13-2010, 12:34 PM
Originally Posted by GoldRush    
Change in feed can/does cause change in stool, but it does sound like the rich feed he's getting is causing this. I noticed a big change in Sun when his feed is too rich or too lean. Talk to the BO. It sounds like there isn't any real communication between you and the BO, so you're both taking different tactics. Don't accuse the BO, just sit down and talk, tell the BO about your concerns, etc.
I agree a change in feed can cause runny stool. But in this case it seems to be something different as....

The feed change was not a change in TYPE of feed but if your upping a horses feed you want to do it gradually. But this depends on if its a large amount. Not sure what the OP was talking here amount wise? But a slight change in feed say a cup or two suddenly should not cause runny stool for 3 weeks...a day or two yes I can see.....
So I'm thinking there is more to play here, and that the change of feed is just a coincidence.

I would suggest a stool sample to the vet.
    02-13-2010, 06:06 PM
I had him on 1 qt safechoice and alittle less then 8 oz performance feed. (forget the exact brand). She upped it to 1/2 qt performance, and I changed it back to how I originally had it 5 times, and each time she changed it to how she felt it should be. I had a argument with her yesterday and im not even kidding after only about 24 hours of having less performance feed, his runny stools were just about completely dry. (as in normal).

So nobody thinks its okay for her to repeatedly change my horses feed rations w/o my permisson? Bc she told me its normal for a BO to make "small ajustments" without consulting the horse owner.

And like, I don't even get why she messes with cutter when I keep telling her to stop.
She's always calling him a "A-hole and Jerk" and so on, so I wish shed just leave him alone. Its getting to the point where im thinking about having my MOTHER talk to her.
She always talks about how she has vet degrees and whatnot but every other boarder has warned me her vet advice is Bull, and of course I don't want to be rude so im staying as nice as possible but I think my lack of being harsh is making her take advantage of me.
She was telling me cutter could be having loose stools because of the cold, and because of eating sand (even though theres about 6 inches of snow on the ground and has been all winter), and because he's full of worms (which he's not, he's on rotation worming every other month which the vet says is fine), so I just don't get why she wont admit her feed ration change did it. I do a rough board so I clean cutters stall daily and I fill his buckets daily so I know him very well and I know what his "norm" is like

The runny stools started about 2.5 weeks ago from her feeding him very moldy hay, then it got better, then got worse when she did the feed ration change
    02-13-2010, 06:08 PM
I guess this is both asking for your advice, and alittle bit of a vent, if that's alright
    02-13-2010, 06:13 PM
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How old is he? It might be that he needs a full source feed. How are his teeth? I agree with Kevin, Diarreah is a big deal. The probios is a good idea. Is there any sand in your area? If there is, you might want to do the old sand test just to be safe (I say this because you stated that there has always been some liquid after he poops). It could be that he has a bug, have you checked his temp? It could be that he has an ulcer, or something more severe.

I would probably go the safe route and call a vet out. (if it were me)
    02-13-2010, 07:35 PM
His teeth wer done over the summer, and he's only about 13. I would consiter sand if it were summer, but weve had at least 3 inches of snow pretty much the entire winter. Today his runny stools looked much better and his bum wasnt nearly as messy as it was.

What is the sand test? Itd be nice to know so I can have it done over the summer when its sandy

And Farmpony: is a full source feed like a "senior" feed?
    02-13-2010, 07:36 PM
Oh and the vets going to look at him this weekend

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