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post #41 of 98 Old 07-09-2012, 12:45 AM
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Add me to the crowd who has no idea why the vet did not tube your girl. Her gut hurts, she's not going to eat.

I would be changing vets, NOW.
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post #42 of 98 Old 07-09-2012, 12:58 AM
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I would not be waiting. Colic is not something that you should ever wait to treat. The longer you do, the outcome can worsen.

I would insist on tubing.
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post #43 of 98 Old 07-09-2012, 01:15 AM
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easy reno bay................

Hey loveyourhorse.....it is pretty easy to shoot the metamucil into her mouth, just as easy as a wormer... the metamucil will jell up pretty quick once you mix with water so you really have no worries about her sucking it into her lungs... if you r unsure of it, maybe you can get someone to help you, but it really is a very good idea...just be easy with her...
And you REALLY NEED A DIFFERENT VET!!!! And you should do your own research on beet pulp, I believe it prevents colic... my horses are proof!

The 3 piles of poop today are great!!! Hopefully you have not picked up the poop? Go get a handful of it (from the top of the pile) make sure it is from the top, and center of pile and hasn't touched anything else.... now put the poop in an old clear plastic bottle (soda or water bottle works good) about 1/3 poop and 1/3 water and 1/3 empty space... shake it up really good and then just let it sit there for awhile.... after it fully settles you "should" see sand at the bottom, then poop then water. This is what a "normal" movement should always look like... sand should always be passed... if after it settles, you do not see any sand than there is definitely a impaction... I check my horses every sunday as another preventative measure...

Poop is good...hopefully she will start improving for you... just keep trying to get her to eat and drink... not sure if anyone has mentioned gatorade yet? But give her 1/2 water and 1/2 gatorade also...if she will not drink that keep adding a little more water until she accepts it...
And I'm sorry, but I still say, beet pulp and apple juice.... good luck!
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post #44 of 98 Old 07-09-2012, 03:11 AM
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My percheron coliced last fall. She was tubed and given banamine. She wouldn't eat anything for three days. Had to then treat her for ulcers. She wouldn't eat anything we offered her. Even being tubed, it took almost 24 hours for her to go poo with the diarrhea from the oil/epsom salt/water mix. She wouldn't eat grass at all.....then suddenly she picked out this little weed and would only eat that out of the grass....almost like a home remedy...wierd. BUt then she had diarrhea and was feeling yucky from that for a few more days and would only nibble. But, she did come around about a week later. Hers was not sand though. I am not sure that a capful of human metamucil would handle a horse amount of sand, but I've heard other people use it.

I hope she comes around, but it may be slow. I really think she should have been tubed though. Please let us know how she is doing. I'm praying for her.
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post #45 of 98 Old 07-09-2012, 10:50 AM Thread Starter
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easy reno bay................

Hey loveyourhorse.....it is pretty easy to shoot the metamucil into her mouth, just as easy as a wormer... the metamucil will jell up pretty quick once you mix with water so you really have no worries about her sucking it into her lungs... if you r unsure of it, maybe you can get someone to help you, but it really is a very good idea...just be easy with her...
And you REALLY NEED A DIFFERENT VET!!!! And you should do your own research on beet pulp, I believe it prevents colic... my horses are proof!

The 3 piles of poop today are great!!! Hopefully you have not picked up the poop? Go get a handful of it (from the top of the pile) make sure it is from the top, and center of pile and hasn't touched anything else.... now put the poop in an old clear plastic bottle (soda or water bottle works good) about 1/3 poop and 1/3 water and 1/3 empty space... shake it up really good and then just let it sit there for awhile.... after it fully settles you "should" see sand at the bottom, then poop then water. This is what a "normal" movement should always look like... sand should always be passed... if after it settles, you do not see any sand than there is definitely a impaction... I check my horses every sunday as another preventative measure...

Poop is good...hopefully she will start improving for you... just keep trying to get her to eat and drink... not sure if anyone has mentioned gatorade yet? But give her 1/2 water and 1/2 gatorade also...if she will not drink that keep adding a little more water until she accepts it...
And I'm sorry, but I still say, beet pulp and apple juice.... good luck!

Thanks for all your advice! I'm about to head out there to give her some dipyrone and I will try getting the Metamucil into her mouth like a wormer.

As for beet pulp, I had always thought that it was a preventative for colic as well. I used to feed it to my horses but when I began boarding them the BO wasn't willing to prepare the soaked food and I can't always get out there. Maybe the beet pulp for 7 months is what kept her from colicing sooner.

I have not tried gatorade yet but I will. She is at least drinking a pretty good amount of water (i can't tell you how many gallons because i'm not sure how many gallons the tub is).

Fingers crossed today is the day for improvement!!!
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My percheron coliced last fall. She was tubed and given banamine. She wouldn't eat anything for three days. Had to then treat her for ulcers. She wouldn't eat anything we offered her. Even being tubed, it took almost 24 hours for her to go poo with the diarrhea from the oil/epsom salt/water mix. She wouldn't eat grass at all.....then suddenly she picked out this little weed and would only eat that out of the grass....almost like a home remedy...wierd. BUt then she had diarrhea and was feeling yucky from that for a few more days and would only nibble. But, she did come around about a week later. Hers was not sand though. I am not sure that a capful of human metamucil would handle a horse amount of sand, but I've heard other people use it.

I hope she comes around, but it may be slow. I really think she should have been tubed though. Please let us know how she is doing. I'm praying for her.
thanks for your reply... I am certainly trying to give her more than just a capful of the Metamucil. This is the first colic I have ever personally dealt with, though I have seen others go through it. However, this is the first sand colic i've ever seen/dealt with. I grew up in the north east and I had never even heard of it until moving to california.
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post #47 of 98 Old 07-09-2012, 11:04 AM
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Sending healing vibes for your mare. Hope there is improvement today.
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post #48 of 98 Old 07-09-2012, 12:33 PM Thread Starter
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Good news!! It looks like she ate about 5 handfuls worth of food last night! And we had another poop over night. Going to try a batch soaked in apple juice. Of she doesn't eat it I will try giving her Metamucil like a wormer
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That is wonderful!!!!!
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post #50 of 98 Old 07-09-2012, 12:43 PM
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It's a start But she needs to be eating more that handfuls. The metamucil thing can work in syringe but the thing with metamucil is it likes a healthy supply of water to have it work the way it is meant. She would have to be drinking good amounts. Another reason to try go the beet pulp route you can also get some extra water into her that way
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