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post #51 of 98 Old 07-09-2012, 01:10 PM Thread Starter
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she's only eating out of my hand right now but with the juice she did eat 13 handfuls with the regular psyllium just now. Then she became distracted by the guy feeding the other horses and she is Nickering over and over for her hay so at least she is interested in food today! I will still go ahead and do the Metamucil in a syringe because the more she gets in her the better. She has been drinking water very well over the past couple days disspite her lack of interest in food. I will still pick up some beet pulp for her because she does like that and this vet I had out seems to be a bit of an idiot. Really praying this is a step in the right direction!!! Thank you all do much for your prayers and ideas!!! I can't thank you enough :)
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post #52 of 98 Old 07-09-2012, 01:30 PM
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good to hear she is pooping... did you check the poop? Is she passing any sand? How does her poop look? Normal? Runny? Hard? That's important too..
If you are going to try the beet pulp today, use the molasses type to start her on it, seems it tastes better.... use 1 part beet pulp, 1 part WARM water (soaks faster), and 1 part WARM apple juice....soak for 30 mins.... it will swell up alot, so just use a small container so that you r not wasting it because you will not be able to keep it long after it soaks...it ferments pretty fast in the heat....
The gatorade (adds electrolytes) will just assist her in fighting dehydration if she is not drinking alot of water... at least 5 gals a day is "normal" for a horse... you really need to find a way to keep track of how much she is drinking... you said she has a tub? Of water in her stall? Then get yourself a 5 gal bucket (empty at any home improvement store is just a few dollars) and use that to refill the tub, marking the outside of the tub with duct tape at 5 gal levels..that will help you determine amounts she is drinking... and make sure you r giving her CLEAN, FRESH, COOL water at least twice a day....
And, in the future, you can feed beet pulp without soaking it.... just small amount daily UNSOAKED is what I feed.... I only soak if I am trying to hide something they do not like...and I don't really "soak", I just add liquids at feeding time ... I give my horses 1/2 scoop (probably 4 cups) dry mixed in with their feed EVERY night.
And just so you know... I am no expert, but I am 50 years old and have only had 1 colic and I live in Florida (the land of colic!!!)...
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If you r getting her to eat the psyllium and she is drinking well, than I would not do the metamucil in the syringe... try the beet pulp as we discussed and if you want to you can either add more psyllium to that...or add the plain, no taste metamucil to it... same thing... but just mix SMALL portions of everything you r doing so you can keep record of what she is getting into her... I am not sure if TOO MUCH psyllium will be good? Or bad? At this point.... can anyone else on here answer that? Is there any concern for TOO MUCH psyllium?
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Its good that she's eating. But keep in mind, a horses digestive system works off forage. So at this point, I would offer her alfalfa hay wetted down. To see if you can get her eating a little more. To get ber guts moving more to push the sand out.
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I agree with the hay also (especially if she was "snickering" at it this am).. but I would also like to state that beet pulp is a very good form of forage... it is commonly used as a "hay" substitute in areas with poor quality or hay shortages.... again, I am NO EXPERT, but my personal experience with beet pulp has always been positive.... and I believe that feeding it dry (in moderation) or "wet", NOT SOAKED is the best way to feed it...as it travels through the digestive system and "swells", it gently cleans the digest tract as it moves along.....
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P.S..... much like my metamucil does for me every night....
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good to hear she is pooping... did you check the poop? Is she passing any sand? How does her poop look? Normal? Runny? Hard? That's important too..
If you are going to try the beet pulp today, use the molasses type to start her on it, seems it tastes better.... use 1 part beet pulp, 1 part WARM water (soaks faster), and 1 part WARM apple juice....soak for 30 mins.... it will swell up alot, so just use a small container so that you r not wasting it because you will not be able to keep it long after it soaks...it ferments pretty fast in the heat....
The gatorade (adds electrolytes) will just assist her in fighting dehydration if she is not drinking alot of water... at least 5 gals a day is "normal" for a horse... you really need to find a way to keep track of how much she is drinking... you said she has a tub? Of water in her stall? Then get yourself a 5 gal bucket (empty at any home improvement store is just a few dollars) and use that to refill the tub, marking the outside of the tub with duct tape at 5 gal levels..that will help you determine amounts she is drinking... and make sure you r giving her CLEAN, FRESH, COOL water at least twice a day....
And, in the future, you can feed beet pulp without soaking it.... just small amount daily UNSOAKED is what I feed.... I only soak if I am trying to hide something they do not like...and I don't really "soak", I just add liquids at feeding time ... I give my horses 1/2 scoop (probably 4 cups) dry mixed in with their feed EVERY night.
And just so you know... I am no expert, but I am 50 years old and have only had 1 colic and I live in Florida (the land of colic!!!)...

I did check her poop and she is passing a bit of sand. Her poop looks normal as far as consistency (not runny, not hard).

She used to eat beet pulp on a regular basis.. i'm going to pick some up today so she can start on it at dinner time.

I also added gatorade to her water to help keep her hydrated. I measured out how much water her tub holds and it looks like she drank about 8 gallons yesterday and had sucked down about 3 today by the time I left around noon.

I used to feed soaked beet pulp twice a day every day when I had my horses at home. Now that I am boarding I no longer feed it because I can't always get there every day and my bo said its too difficult to have to soak. I think i'm just going to have to make an effort to really get out there daily so they can have beet pulp once a day. ... it kind of makes sense that when I had her at home she never got sand colic but now that i'm boarding, just two short months later she gets sand colic. I think it really does have to do with not getting the beet pulp anymore.


When I left around noon today she was picking at her food every so often so i'm hoping she will continue to do so. She's much more alert today, no laying down and/or rolling, nickering for food.. praying we are heading in the right direction!

Can't thank you enough for all your thoughts and suggestions!!
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Its good that she's eating. But keep in mind, a horses digestive system works off forage. So at this point, I would offer her alfalfa hay wetted down. To see if you can get her eating a little more. To get ber guts moving more to push the sand out.
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I did wet down a small amount of alfalfa hay for her and she gobbled it right up! Then I mixed a little more into her pellet/psyllium mixture to try to get to her eat more of that while trying to pick out the alfalfa.

So glad she is actually willing to eat today! Yesterday she wouldn't consider nibbling anything!
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that is GREAT NEWS!!!! keep checking the poop every morning for sand...u should see an increase as it continues to move out... then a slight decrease as she clears... but there should always be sand... and as far as the beet pulp goes, if she will eat it, just feed it dry...mine get about 3-4 cups a night....
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