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post #1 of 17 Old 03-29-2012, 11:41 AM Thread Starter
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to say runny poop would be an understatement

Okay, I'm at a loss here and need some advice. My daughter's little racking mare Blackie has had very loose stool for quite a while. I would describe them as cow patties. She's lost roughly 100lbs over the past year. She eats and drinks just fine, but the weight was slowly coming off. I had the vet out on the 13th of this month, teeth were floated, blood was taken and poop was checked. Blood came back fine (low protein levels but not out of the norm). Doc said from his experience it looks like encysted strongyles (stubborn little boogers).

So.. advice given and taken by me, Panacur PowerPac on all the horses, begin to switch daughter's horse over to a higher fat/protein feed. The last dose of Panacur was given on the 20th. I'm in the process of switching her feed but that's slow going for obvious reasons. My concern is this... I expected her to continue with the runny poop while I was giving her the Panacur, but for the last week and a half now it's not cow patties anymore, it's like someone has turned on a fire hose out her back end, pure liquid projectile sewage is how I would describe this.

Yes, I have a call into the vet but I would like other's opinions and experiences with this. Blackie is in her mid-twenties, pastured 24/7 (new grass coming up as well could be a contributing factor, but this is just...explosive). She's eating, drinking and acting normally, not emaciated or dehydrated, just don't stand behind her!
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post #2 of 17 Old 03-29-2012, 01:29 PM
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You've most likely completely knocked the bacterial flora in her hindgut out of whack with the power pac. Get her on a daily double dose of pre/probiotic for at least a week. Also look at her new feed. She could have a sensitivity to something in it most likely alfalfa.
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okay, off the phone with vet... yes, probiotics were advised as well as Bio-Sponge and to completely take her off grain, so... anyone have any experience with Bio-Sponge?
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The new grass can cause the looseness. The horses shouldn't spend much time on the grass now anyway as the cool nights and warm days are a recipe for founder. Dandelions can do this too and the thistles with the little yellow blossoms at the top of the plant. Watery stool generally calls for electrolytes to be administered such as gator aide.
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I tried Bio Sponge once on a bad case of diarrhea. I didn't get any improvements with it. It's nothing more than DE which you can pick up in the chicken department of your local feed store for much, much cheaper.
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Thankfully I'm blessed with a wonderful vet who goes above and beyond, I drove up to his office today and picked up enough for a week for $10. He said if I don't see an improvement in 48 hours to double the dose...and call him in a week. Absolutely no grain, just probiotics, Bio-Sponge and pasture. I'll be happy to see cow patties at this point.
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This is kind of troubling to me because my 18 yr old mare also has cow patties, ever since I bought her really. Her stool is almost normal with a grass/alfalfa mix and cow patties with straight alfalfa. I have been under the assumption it is a sensitivity to alfalfa, which is practically the only hay I can get.

Anyway, I was just thinking I should do the Power Pack because I have never done that with my horses, although I have dewormed them rotationally very faithfully.

Now I'm not so sure the Power Pack is a good idea!
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Originally Posted by Left Hand Percherons View Post
It's nothing more than DE which you can pick up in the chicken department of your local feed store for much, much cheaper.
Ummm…NO it is not like diatomaceous earth (DE) - Bio Sponge is Di-tri-octahedral smectite, a form of bentonite clay.

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I don't know that this is remotely helpful, but my mustang colt was having runny poo issues for a while until I cut alfalfa completely out of his diet. On just grassy hay he's returned to the normal poo consistency you'd expect from a horse.
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Well, regarding alfalfa.. the feed she used to be on was just hay stretcher to supplement a lean pasture, alfalfa is the 4th ingredient listed in there. I'm switching her over to a feed where alfalfa is the 5th ingredient down on the list. My gut isn't telling me it's the feed, although my gut has been wrong before apparently! I do see how the PowerPac could possibly have messed up the flora in her hind gut as Left Hand Percherons had mentioned, Vet explained the likelihood of that as well, but it was necessary to do in order to target the strongyles that were causing the problem in the first place, I just really don't like the water hose full of sewage effect that's been displayed ever since and I'm sure the poor girl doesn't like it either! I gave her the first dose of Bio-Sponge and Probios last night, hopefully She'll get some relief soon.

@Trailhorserider.. I take care of 4 horses, all were given the PowerPac, only this horse is having this issue, the other 3 never got the runs, vet said I should expect to see loose stool towards the 4 and 5 day of dosing, I have weird horses.
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