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post #1 of 8 Old 08-23-2014, 03:47 PM Thread Starter
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Scary fitting episode.

So while at work today, I was out checking the Chocolate group (all horses get a visual check once a day (eyes/body/soundness) and a headcount twice a day), and when I went to move Kitkat, one of the little bay mares of the group, to check that she was sound, she had an "episode".

So yeah, she took a few steps forwards, then went completely rigid with her legs splayed, and keeled over sideways. She started thrashing and fitting with her legs completely straight, then seemed to come around, and managed to stand up. She was whickering to the other horses and obviously pretty shaken, when it happened again, and she fell sideways, and started thrashing.

At this point, I was on the radio to one of the other girls for her to call the yard manager who has weekends off, and I was getting my phone out to video it. I know that sounds pretty callous, but there wasn't anything I could safely do, and I knew the vets would want to see it. By the time I had my phone on video, she had managed to get up again, and she trotted off, with the only sign of anything happening being that she was slightly stiff behind.

She was brought down to the barn for one of the on call vets to come and see her, who listened to her heart (no apparent abnormalities), and took bloods. She bashed her eye up pretty badly when she went down and was fitting, so she's now on a course of Equinixin (flunixin) for the swelling and pain. The vet said it's most likely a brain issue, either a lesion or a tumour somewhere that's causing things to short out.

Anyone else had experience with anything like this? Not going to lie, I was pretty freaked out when it happened, I felt totally helpless!

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post #2 of 8 Old 08-23-2014, 03:51 PM
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We had a pony do something like this at the yard I used to work on - it turned out to have a brain tumour , sadly no happy ending especially as the woman had owned for quite a long time him since he was a foal
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We had a pony do something like this at the yard I used to work on - it turned out to have a brain tumour , sadly no happy ending especially as the woman had owned for quite a long time him since he was a foal
This is the vet's line of thinking - possibly pituitary, as she has a small patch of curly hair cropped up on her withers, which we'd thought nothing of until now. She's now going to be monitored as much as possible to watch for another episode, but if they become a regular occurrence, she will be likely PTS. It'll be a sad day, as her group have been at this rescue for 10 years, but if she loses her quality of life, it'll have to be done.

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Why would the vet assume it is a brain tumor. I would think epilepsy.
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Why would the vet assume it is a brain tumor. I would think epilepsy.
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The vet said that "true epilepsy" is pretty rare in horses, but it something in her brain may have caused an epileptic fit, like a lesion or growth. It's difficult to make a diagnosis, as the article states a full history is needed - I work at a welfare charity, not a single horse in that group has a full history, they all came from welfare cases, unfortunately. All we know is that she is older (late teens/early 20s), and has had at least one foal.

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isnt there a certain blood line. Can't think of the stallion right off hand, where the offspring were having seizures, they have to be tested if they are negative or positive before breeding. One of the horses my trainer was training, had a seizure, sadly didnt make it
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isnt there a certain blood line. Can't think of the stallion right off hand, where the offspring were having seizures, they have to be tested if they are negative or positive before breeding. One of the horses my trainer was training, had a seizure, sadly didnt make it
You're thinking of HYPP. It runs in the Impressive lines (Impressive was the stallion who originally carried the HYPP gene). I believe horses who have Impressive in their pedigree now must be tested and if they test H/H, they can't be registered. I think horses that test N/H get limited registration, but I could be mistaken.
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isnt there a certain blood line. Can't think of the stallion right off hand, where the offspring were having seizures, they have to be tested if they are negative or positive before breeding. One of the horses my trainer was training, had a seizure, sadly didnt make it
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You're thinking of HYPP. It runs in the Impressive lines (Impressive was the stallion who originally carried the HYPP gene). I believe horses who have Impressive in their pedigree now must be tested and if they test H/H, they can't be registered. I think horses that test N/H get limited registration, but I could be mistaken.
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There is an almost nil chance of her having HYPP (never say impossible ) as Quarter Horse breeding is still a pretty niche thing over here in the UK, and lets just say, she definitely doesn't look like a Quarter Horse They are pretty far and few between here.

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