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        12-26-2009, 07:22 PM
      #21
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    Originally Posted by bellamuerte    
    If ur horse gets food who has a lot of sugar in it, you might see he gets sore if he is barefoot. But that will not shows if he is shod. Just an example. Im not good at writing english, but I try.
    Your english is alot better they anything I can speak. I know what you mean but why would sugar show itself if the horse is barefoot and not with shoes??

    I run barefoot about 1/2 the time. I just pull the shoes, trim accordingly and start running. I never notice a ouchy time or the shoes would go back on. For me it is a wear thing and a traction thing. I prefer bare but I will not compromise where or how I ride and I don't feel the horse's health is compromised at all with shoing.

    Your english is fine.
         
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        12-26-2009, 07:33 PM
      #22
    Foal
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    Originally Posted by RiosDad    
    Your english is alot better they anything I can speak. I know what you mean but why would sugar show itself if the horse is barefoot and not with shoes??

    I run barefoot about 1/2 the time. I just pull the shoes, trim accordingly and start running. I never notice a ouchy time or the shoes would go back on. For me it is a wear thing and a traction thing. I prefer bare but I will not compromise where or how I ride and I don't feel the horse's health is compromised at all with shoing.

    Your english is fine.
    Thank you.

    New Page 14 - Article about feeding the hoof

    I try to tell you that the food has alot to say about which quality the horse's hoof will get.

    The reason for why te shoe are hurting the hoof is because of the lack of shock absortion, especially when the shoes are in alu or iron. But I will say that it depends on every person for what they want to do with their horses. Someone prefer barefoot, other prefer shoes, but we have to put us into advantages and disadvantages to those thing we choose for our horses if we want to choose the "right" thing.
         
        12-26-2009, 07:40 PM
      #23
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    Originally Posted by bellamuerte    
    Thank you.

    New Page 14 - Article about feeding the hoof

    I try to tell you that the food has alot to say about which quality the horse's hoof will get.

    The reason for why te shoe are hurting the hoof is because of the lack of shock absortion, especially when the shoes are you alu or iron. But I will say that it depends on every person for what they want to do with their horses. Someone prefer barefoot, other prefer shoes, but we have to put us into advantages and disadvantages to those thing we choose for our horses.
    I see he also pushes salt. While I provide both indoor and outdoor salt blocks each and every graining consists of a small handfull of iodized salt thrown into the mix. At the very least it is a film canister, old film came in black snap on plastic containers. I feed one of these full every day.
    As far as going overboard in the grass, hay sugar thing I have never had a poor hoof, foot problem and I don't worry about it. I do feed sweet feed daily as part of his grain. I also feed second cut alfalfa hay daily. Pure alfalfa. He had great feet as have all my other arabs.
         
        12-26-2009, 08:18 PM
      #24
    Foal
    After seeing the pictures they really don't look THAT bad (not as bad as my horse's atleast). How far in between do you get your horse trimmed? I would shorten the cycle some. At this point I see no need for shoes. I would soak in either Clean Trax or White Lightning for 45 minutes and then soak them again the next week, making sure to kill all bacteria.

    Is your horse pastured 24/7 or able to come in a dry stall at some point? If so I would diligently clean out the hoof, and pick out EVERYTHING in those crevices, apply some thrushbuster or something similiar aswell. Let them dry out in clean shavings for atleast some time before they go out in the mud again.

    Best of luck with your horse.

    -Kristin
         
        12-26-2009, 08:20 PM
      #25
    Started
    With those pictures I think just a really good trim would do the trick. And are you sure your horse has white line disease?
         
        12-26-2009, 09:04 PM
      #26
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RiosDad    
    How is going barefoot going to teach me about FOOD??
    Instead of RESPECT don't you mean Compromise???

    Can't ride here because my horse is too tender for all that rock??
    Can't ride there because it snowed last night forming ice and I will slip??
    NOthing but compromises.

    Ummm...I ride over hard stones, and all through out winter. I grew up in northern MN, and was a hardcore trail rider, throughout any terrian, and weather. I don't shoe.

    The mare I have now, came to me with yucky chipped, and cracked feet; she'd been shoed for much of her life, until the owners I got her from took them off this summer. However, they hadn't kept up with trimming, to improve them a whole lot, prior to me getting her. Now that she is being trimmed and filed regularly, she is growing in really nice hoof, and isn't chipping a whole lot (the main reason she is at all, is that the cracks are still growing out). Her feet have become tough, and she can walk on all of our terrain now, as opposed to when I got her, when she limped across the rocky areas.

    Shoes are not "necessary" in order to ride in any condition that nature throws at you; I don't think anyone goes out and shoes all the feral horses, and they fare quite well!
         
        12-26-2009, 09:39 PM
      #27
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    Originally Posted by mom2pride    

    Shoes are not "necessary" in order to ride in any condition that nature throws at you; I don't think anyone goes out and shoes all the feral horses, and they fare quite well!

    No wild horse can cross a frozen lake. Ever see a video of a deer on slick ice? Try a simple thing of leading a horse across a frozen driveway and tell me you would be comfortable riding it?
    A wild horse sticks to snow, a domestic horse riding is forced to go where the rider wants and that includes slick ice.

    If the local hockey team asks you to carry a banner for their team out on the rink, maybe trot a circle around the boards with the team skating behind you?? Could you do it with your barefoot horse??
    I could with my properly shod horse.
         
        12-26-2009, 09:40 PM
      #28
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Equestriun    
    With those pictures I think just a really good trim would do the trick. And are you sure your horse has white line disease?
    hey Equestriun sorry to be ignorant, is white line disease another name for seedy toe? If so the answer is yes she did have it. The pic below is the hole in her back foot which my foot guy cut out last week.

    The chinks you hopefully can see in the sides of her feet in the previous pics are caused by stones getting lodged in between the hoof wall and the softer tissue, I know this is happening because I am having to dig them out which of course creates a bigger hole. Stones have been lodged in and they have forced the wall of the hoof out causing a crack which due to the weather lately has been a perfect breeding area for seedy toe. I know this is happening because I am having to dig them out which of course creates a bigger hole. This is the reason I am contemplating shoes.

    By the way Phoenix had her feet trimmed 5 days ago. So you guys think the job wasn't done well enough? Be honest. It is bloody hard to find a qualified barefoot trimmer, most of those who do the job, including my regular guy are self taught. As for the guy that I get some people think he is the bees knees and others think he does a crap job. I don't feel that I have the knowledge to be able to judge his work. My horse isn't lame so I'm ok with what he does. But feel free to critique his workmanship.
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        12-26-2009, 09:50 PM
      #29
    Banned
    Phoenix is in trouble. You need a gualified farrier taking care of her ASAP. If that trim is 5 days old it is a very poor job. I would expect that toe to be sectioned. It is beyond a seedy toe.
    You need shoes.
         
        12-26-2009, 09:52 PM
      #30
    Yearling
    I will call the farrier tomorrow (monday) and get this sorted. Thanks Rioasdad.
         

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