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  • Can i remove horse shies without nail pinchers

 
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    07-23-2009, 09:10 AM
  #11
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Originally Posted by AlmagroN    
hmm, I have no idea how you even go about removing a clinch. We nail on the shoe, clinch them over, and rasp them off. We just use pullers and pull of the shoe, it never pulls any hoof wall off....
The purpose of a clinch is to prevent the nail from pulling out. When you clinch a nail you do NOT rasp it off. You only rasp it smooth so it doesn't catch anything. A light rasp only. You do not want to weaken it.
When the farrier removes the shoe he first either cuts the clinch with a clinch cutter or rasps them off. This is done to allow the nail to be pulled out cleanly through the hole.
If the clinch is not cut there is a chance with a low nail of actually pulling a big chunk of hoof wall off with the nail.
An amature just using a set of pinchers and prying the shoe off runs the risk of tearing a chunk of hoof wall off causing even more problems.
If the clinches are cut the nail comes out smoothly.
Besides cutting the clinches I prefer to remove one nail at a time and not just wrench the shoe off.
     
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    07-23-2009, 09:10 AM
  #12
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Originally Posted by AlmagroN    
rasp them off.
That's how it's done. Once the cinch is removed the nail can come out without bringing hoof wall with it.

Rio, rasping the head off is basically what I think Almagro is saying. It's the same as removing the head of a nail so that it can be driven through a piece of wood.
     
    07-23-2009, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RiosDad    
The purpose of a clinch is to prevent the nail from pulling out. When you clinch a nail you do NOT rasp it off.
When the farrier removes the shoe he first either cuts the clinch with a clinch cutter or rasps them off. This is done to allow the nail to be pulled out cleanly through the hole. .
Not very clear I'm afraid. The idea that I think you are trying to get across is that you can rasp just the cinch (or cut it if possible) but not the rest of the nail.
     
    07-23-2009, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by iridehorses    
Not very clear I'm afraid. The idea that I think you are trying to get across is that you can rasp just the cinch (or cut it if possible) but not the rest of the nail.
You do NOT rasp a nail head off. It is buried in the crease of the shoe and is not accessable to a rasp. The clinch is that little shiny thing you see bent over when the nail exits through the hoof wall. This is called a clinch. It is just a bending over of the nail. It is about 1/8th by 1/8th and sits slightly inside the hoof wall. This is what prevents the nail from being pulled out.
Agian you can not rasp a nail head off. You can only rasp the clinch off to make pulling the nail easier and prevent damage to the hoof wall.
     
    07-23-2009, 10:16 AM
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Exactly. It is the cinch that is rasped off, not the head. I'm not sure where the confusion over this comes from but I believe we are all talking about the cinch and not the nail head.
     
    07-23-2009, 08:28 PM
  #16
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Well I get what you're all saying. And im glad you know what I meant iridehorses. I don't know, maybe its different for our racehorses because I've never seen anyone do anything but just pull the shoe, and many of our farriers have years of experience and have gone through schooling.
     
    07-24-2009, 12:37 PM
  #17
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Posting askew.....

OP...I definitely wouldn't go on a trail ride. I'd call the farrier out ASAP. My horse once had that same issue and it took the farrier 2 days to get out there. By that time he had pulled it off more, stepped on it, and abscessed. At that point I went barefoot permanent because it was to much trouble.
     
    07-24-2009, 01:45 PM
  #18
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It's really a good idea to learn how to pull a loose shoe so that you need not wait for a farrier. (I say that but I still haven't taken my own advise [lol])
     
    07-24-2009, 08:06 PM
  #19
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Originally Posted by iridehorses    
It's really a good idea to learn how to pull a loose shoe so that you need not wait for a farrier. (I say that but I still haven't taken my own advise [lol])
lol. Pulling a shoe is pretty easy. Im sure your farrier could show you next time
     
    07-24-2009, 08:33 PM
  #20
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I know how to do it ... I just choose not to (LOL). I need to get a puller and a good rasp but with a riding partner who is a farrier, I've never needed to. That's not a good excuse but it works for me!!
     

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