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        11-25-2009, 03:08 AM
      #1
    Weanling
    Shoes

    My horse has to be constantly shod all round, as soon as she loses a shoe she is sore.

    She is also club footed.

    Is there ANYWAY that I can ever have her unshod?

    She has been on pellets to harden her feet, but they don't do anything.

    Any ideas???
         
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        11-25-2009, 02:27 PM
      #2
    Started
    Pictures??
         
        11-25-2009, 02:44 PM
      #3
    Foal
    Well you could try taking off her back shoes....I have seen people do that and let her have some time to get used to the hard ground but sometimes it can take a long time for them to get used to the footing. And I know of some horses who just have to have shoes on all the time. You could also try some boots (Cavallio) (sp?) adn try to ajust (sp?) her to hard ground, But Im not at Farrior talk to your Farrior he/she will be your biggest help
         
        11-25-2009, 03:09 PM
      #4
    Trained
    Why not just keep shoes on?
         
        11-26-2009, 12:33 AM
      #5
    Weanling
    Have you done any research on barefoot trimming? When I adopted my horse 5 weeks ago I was drawn to learn about the hooves. And that lead me to barefoot trimming. From many case studies I've read or watched on youtube, I've seen many people state things like; my horse has week hooves and they will never last in a barefoot trim, white hooves, soo many different things where the owner had doubts because that's the knowledge that was passed down to them. But all of those owners saying that became case studies where they were able to take their horse with an, "impossible to take barefoot hoof", and they are now barefoot. I've seen case studies of club footed horses that came back to normal healthy hooves. I saw one study which I was trying to find cus it's such a joke as how bad owners can neglect horses and this pony had hooves which were over a foot long and curling upwards. The lady that trimmed this guys other horses asked if she could have him, and he said sure. His answer to why the hooves were like that was, "you can't do anything about that, it's just they way they grow." It's too bad that bad knowledge continues to be passed along and horses pay the consequences because the human counterparts cannot become humble enough to ask if this is the best way. "Sheesh I need to stop, I'm getting on a rant." Also many owners don't want to allow their horses hoof enough time to heal so they opt to do what the majority does. Shoe it and ride it.

    I'm in no way an expert on hoof care, but I have a gut feeling/sixth sense about finding the right paths in all I seek. And I see absolutely no reason why a hoof cannot be brought back into a normal healthy state. Well I take that back, I've read of a case study where the horse was so old that it wouldn't of lived long enough to transition to barefoot, so they put it back into shoes to keep it comfortable.

    I honestly wouldn't of gave such a strong opinion if you didn't have any want for a barefoot horse. But it kinda sounds like you're looking in that direction and wanting a push.

    And nutrition plays a big role from what I'm learning. Check out www.safergrass.org I'm just barely beginning to peruse that site so I'm still learning about proper nutrition.

    Sorry for offending anyone if they strongly believe in shod horses. I didn't intend it, there is a better way though. And that is my strong opinion. I do know though that in the coming future everyone will look back at our times of shod hooves and ask why we did things that way. The answer will be, "simply because they didn't learn/know any better." Hooves were a natural design to operate in a way without shoes in all sorts of terrain. We only need to learn how they are taken care of by nature and follow that path home.

    Here's a few links with lots of good info and many case studies.
    Barefoot for Soundness
    The Horse's Hoof, News for Barefoot Hoofcare
    Healthy Hoof - Solutions for Barefoot Performance
    Pete Ramey hoof care heals founder in horse’s navicular disease farrier

    If I can find that story with the foot long hooved pony I'll post it. It wasn't clubbed hooved of course, but I just wanna share it for some reason. When I saw those pictures I was just so taken aback. Kinda in awe. But I'll bet there are case studies in those links of "used to be" clubbed hooved horses.

    If you get really interested in barefoot hooves I would see if you can find a barefoot trimmer in your area. And get references too. I had one come out right when I got my horse cus he hadn't been trimmed in a while and I was told that they knew how to do a proper barefoot trim. But after seeing the trim my horse received and then learning more from those sites above, I knew that the trimmer I paid didn't posess enough knowledge to do proper barefoot trimming. Only enough to do a pasture trim for shod hooves.
         
        11-26-2009, 12:55 AM
      #6
    Weanling
    I don't know, they are just a pain having, would be much easier to just have none, but spoke to farrier today and he said there is not much I can do.

    She will always need them...


    Thanks for the tips though, will do some reaserch
         
        11-26-2009, 01:07 AM
      #7
    Started
    With the club you will probably always need them ...
         
        11-26-2009, 01:20 AM
      #8
    Weanling
    Probably, I guess they make awicked sound...
         
        11-26-2009, 01:20 AM
      #9
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by totalfreedom    
    When I adopted my horse 5 weeks ago I was drawn to learn about the hooves.


    Sorry for offending anyone if they strongly believe in shod horses. I didn't intend it, there is a better way though. And that is my strong opinion..

    Based on an entire 5 weeks of horse ownership? Why don't you give it 2 months before you drink the cool-aid? Maybe you could spend the next 5 weeks researching the benefits of shoes and the downside of barefoot trims. Any time that the hoof wears faster than it grows you need to put shoes on. Also there are some horses that have abnormalities that prevent them from going without shoes. Nutrition is the key to going barefoot. You can use all the boots and have the trimmer out every 3 weeks but if you don't have a horse on a low starch diet you will end up with a lame horse. It is foolish to base an opinion on something you have next to no experience with, on a "sixth sense".
         
        11-26-2009, 01:23 AM
      #10
    Weanling
    Yeah, farrier said that barefoot trimming would not work with my stead, her feet are badly conformed (if that's the right word to use), so shoes it is
         

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