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    03-24-2013, 11:13 AM
  #21
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SnowCowgirl...I would find out what is required and get them vaccinated as soon as possible. It can take awhile to build up immunity after the shots are given.
Some vaccines may require a second dose. Your vet has that info. We keep our horses up to date and it has been many years since we started from scratch, so to speak.
     
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    03-24-2013, 12:51 PM
  #22
Green Broke
Here is the recommended core vaccines per the American Association of Equine Practitioners:

Core Vaccination Guidelines - AAEP

What's funny is most of the most important vaccines (for the most fatal diseases) aren't passed directly from horse-to-horse. They are diseases passed from other animals or are in the environment. Like rabies, tetanus, west nile, eastern and western, those are all in the horse's environment and don't come from contact with other horses. So for that reason (and the fatality factor) it makes sense to give those vaccines. ANY horse could contract those diseases, even if the are the only horse for miles around.

My wonderful vet passed away, so I did shots myself this year. I purchased them from Valley Vet and hit all the core vaccines in two injections.

I purchased this 5-way

West Nile Innovator + VEWT (W. Nile + 3-way S.Sickness + Tet) Pfizer (Vaccines - West Nile Virus)

Plus rabies
Rabvac 3 Boehringer Ingelheim (Vaccines - Rabies)

The rabies comes in a vial and I did all 3 horses plus the barn cat for $18 plus syringes (which are only like 34 cents a piece). So for my piece of mine, it was worth it to do the rabies. The horses did not get any reactions from the rabies vaccine nor did the cat. It was easy peasy. I'm glad I did it.

I did have two horses get slight swellings from the 5-way but my one gelding gets that every year, no matter if the vet gives it or myself.

So I'm happy with what I purchased and how it worked out giving it myself.
     
    03-24-2013, 10:05 PM
  #23
Foal
Should I administer the shots myself (or my mom, who is a nurse and knows how to give shots) to the horses? Such as buy them online instead of having a vet do it. The vaccines are still the same that the vet would give right? (They are just alot cheaper) lol
     
    03-24-2013, 10:27 PM
  #24
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by gamingirl22    
Should I administer the shots myself (or my mom, who is a nurse and knows how to give shots) to the horses? Such as buy them online instead of having a vet do it. The vaccines are still the same that the vet would give right? (They are just alot cheaper) lol
Yes, the shots that you order from the catalogs are the same as the vets give. I like ordering from Valley Vet, but there are many places that sell them.

If you give them yourself (or your mom does) do a little research (Google is great) on the correct way to give them and were to place them. They need to go deep into muscle without hitting bones or veins. There is also a risk of complications anytime you give vaccines yourself (even fatal) so you also need to be aware of that and willing to take that risk.

But it's not hard to do yourself. I just gave each horse a little grain and gave them their shots. Only one horse even felt it and he just stepped away from the pressure. I've watched my vet do it a zillion times and as long as you are careful about putting it in a correct area, I don't think it takes a rocket scientist. It's all about if you are comfortable doing it or not.
     
    03-24-2013, 10:46 PM
  #25
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You can do the vaccines yourself but if something happens ie a horse comes down with symptoms associated with one disease or another the vaccines you did yourself will not stand up. The state wants your vets signature on a medical record before they will believe that the vaccines were done.

I vaccinate for ewt/wn and rabies. That's mostly because I have seen too many horses have their heads chopped off or brains removed to be tested for west nile, rabies, or EEE. Its cheaper no matter what to vaccinate than to have the vet remove your horses head/brain. Its a heck of a lot cheaper than a 1000 dollar a shot post rabies exposure series at the ER.
     
    03-25-2013, 02:33 AM
  #26
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In this area many feed stores also sell vaccines (not rabies). I buy them locally, keep them in a cooler until I get home to the refrigerator and give as soon as possible.
     
    03-25-2013, 10:53 AM
  #27
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Ask a vet for what vaccinations would be best to be given in your area. Sometimes it varies.

We do vaccinate all but two horses, I've only given a basic 5-way for the past many years though.

My dearly loved mare is allergic to any and every vaccination that we've tried. She has had reactions from her face swelling up like a balloon and inhibiting her ability to breathe to her muscles in the area that the shot was given being so sore that we literally have to force her to eat or drink, and in one case tube her due to colic because she wasn't drinking. She handles the basic $4 tet shot and she did fair well with her Prodigy vac when pregnant.

So for the past ten years we have not vaccinated her - she is 26 years old and still here Her colt is the same way and so he does not get vaccinated either, he is now 8. I know of two farms that do not give any vaccinations and they have been around for years. Personal preference I suppose but I think that a tetanus vaccine is the absolute minimum and is a must for ALL animals.
     
    03-25-2013, 12:19 PM
  #28
Foal
There is a triangle of muscle in the middle of the neck, this is generally where you should give the vaccines. If there are quite a few vaccines to be given you can use other muscle groups.











Please google and watch videos on youtube on how to give injections and do so safely. There are techniques which will reduce your risk of poking yourself, how to place the injection (IM is injected at 90* from muscle, meaning straight in and not at an angle for example) and you need to know what to do with the needles afterwards, as it is illegal to dispose of sharps in the regular trash.
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    03-26-2013, 04:11 AM
  #29
Foal
You also have to be careful how the shots are handled, both before and after you get them. A lot of do it yourself shots are mishandled temperature wise, and end up being useless or even dangerous. Also be very careful when giving shots you do not hit an artery or vein, pull back the plunger to check for blood before injecting. I have my vet do it. They check over the general health of the horse at the same time and check for teeth issues as well. Just honestly generally safer to have a vet do it unless you know for sure how the vaccinations were handled before and after you got them, and are quite experienced at giving them yourself.
     
    03-26-2013, 12:57 PM
  #30
Foal
Thanks. Also on my 4-H form, it says that my horse needs a rabies vaccine and the date it was given and such. I think the vet might also have to sign a form? Do I need to have a vet give my horse her rabies shot so she can go to shows?
     

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