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post #11 of 23 Old 07-05-2011, 01:37 AM
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I feel your pain. I have a just turned 3 yr. Old Hanoverian/TB filly that is about 16.2 and she always looks bony to me, ribs showing and then last year her hips suddenly were wider and poking out..... just recently, she started to fill out some so maybe she's done growing up and is now filling out. I have her on Purina Strategy and MoorGlo pellets, beet pulp and occasionally Cool Calories weight builder plus grass hay 24/7. The neighbor's QH babies are all nice and sleek and then there's my boney girl...... all legs!

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post #12 of 23 Old 07-05-2011, 01:47 AM
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OP, seems you maybe just too used to fat horses! I realise she's a QH so stockier type, I realise you can see some rib thru her (summer) coat in a couple of the pics. Agree with others that she certainly isn't thin. Looks on the hefty side to me. I know QH's are bred as 'cow horses' but that's not to say they should look like beef cattle<GG>

Re feeding grain or other starchy or sugary 'junk food', IME best to feed her a healthy alternative instead & avoid this sort of feed, unless the horse is lacking energy/in hard work, there is no better alternative & you can feed it little & often, rather than just a few 'meals' daily. See safergrass.org for one of many good sources of diet info as it relates to health.
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OP, seems you maybe just too used to fat horses! I realise she's a QH so stockier type, I realise you can see some rib thru her (summer) coat in a couple of the pics. Agree with others that she certainly isn't thin. Looks on the hefty side to me. I know QH's are bred as 'cow horses' but that's not to say they should look like beef cattle<GG>

Re feeding grain or other starchy or sugary 'junk food', IME best to feed her a healthy alternative instead & avoid this sort of feed, unless the horse is lacking energy/in hard work, there is no better alternative & you can feed it little & often, rather than just a few 'meals' daily. See safergrass.org for one of many good sources of diet info as it relates to health.
I'd not like to see what you think thin is

I'd like to see condition on her, is she wormed? She's not hefty nor fat, she's not thin but she does need some weight to cover those ribs!
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I'd not like to see what you think thin is

I'd like to see condition on her, is she wormed? She's not hefty nor fat, she's not thin but she does need some weight to cover those ribs!
I beg your pardon, sorry! I meant to say *if anything* she's on the hefty side - I agree she's not really fat, just not under. No, looking only at ribs is not necessarily an accurate way to gauge 'condition' tho - they're all individuals & may or may not show a bit of rib even when overweight. Look at the overall picture to judge.
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I beg your pardon, sorry. I meant to say *if anything* she's on the hefty side - I agree she's probably not overly fat, but she's not under, assuming pics are accurate. No, looking only at ribs is not necessarily an accurate way to gauge 'condition' tho - they're all individuals & may or may not show a bit of rib even when overweight. Look at the overall picture to judge.

**Just read OP's post & looked at pics more thoroughly tho. Firstly, it is only in one pic that her ribs are showing clearly - there is only a hint of them in one other pic & the other pics look like ribs are well & truly covered, and it apparently being her summer coat. This horse is only 3yo - they usually do tend to look more lanky, or go thru 'gangly' stages when young anyway. She also says she's 'very TB shape' or some such. Those comments do make me more inclined to think of her as a bit 'hefty', assuming the pics are an accurate example of real life of course.
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I can see what loosie is saying when he calls her a bit on the hefty side. The mare DOES have a fair bit of muscle on her.

I have peeked in on this thread several times to look at the pictures again and to see the responses. Honestly, I was quite surprised that the OP thought she was thin or skinny. I see a healthy weight for a 3 year old. Yes, you can see a bit of her ribs in the one picture, but if you look at the mare overall...thats the only spot that she shows a bit of bone.

You are on the right track OP, with what you are feeding already. She is still growing, so she is going to look a bit ribby at times. Free choice hay is the best bet.

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post #17 of 23 Old 07-05-2011, 12:57 PM
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hi,
Your horse looks fine for her age, but I also had ribby problems with my youngster who's just turned 3, I was concerned like yourself, and tried everything to get a bit of weight on her. Nothing seemed to work.

I got the dental tech out and had her teeth done; the dentist took out some caps, wolf teeth and floated her back ones. 8 weeks later she's filled out nicely.

She's a lovely horse, good luck with her :)
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Horse does not look underweight to me either.


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Ricebran does work but you have to be really careful with the calcuim phospherous ratio!
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Nutritional Information | Manna Pro

MaxEGlo has addressed the calcium/phosphorus ratio with rice bran.
The calcium/phosphorus ratio in a horses diet needs to be balanced no matter what you feed. Rice bran is not the only time you need to think about this. Beet pulp, alfalfa, etc can all affect the ratio.

Cori is correct, when buying things like rice bran look for the word stabilized.
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post #19 of 23 Old 07-07-2011, 12:22 PM
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I saw a horse that died due to an all beet pulp diet. It was the calcium/phosphorus ratio. Beet pulp is very low in calcium. This horse had been on the diet for two years, and his bones looked like rubber. Thanks for mentioning the mineral stuff. I provide my horses with calcium supplementation.
About the original horse in question, she will probably look great before we finish arguing about her. :)
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post #20 of 23 Old 07-07-2011, 12:45 PM
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Fiera is a pretty good weight for a three year old. She could use a bit more to cover the ribs that you are seeing in the last picture but she is by no means thin. Her weight will go up and down as she matures, as others have said. The more you work her the trickier she will be to keep weight on.
How big are the scoops of feed? What brand is the mare & foal feed? That can vary a lot. Keep her on a low sugar higher quality feed (pretty much nothing from tractor supply, much like dog food from the grocery store is a no-no) Adding things like rice bran, corn oil, sunflower seeds and rotation balancer would be best.
Your other two mares are closer to over weight, so I am sure that is contributing to what you think you are seeing with this filly.
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