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post #11 of 18 Old 08-24-2012, 09:45 PM
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Probably the reason vet said removing wasn't a good idea is he knows once you start cutting, it will spread fast.
If that were true then no carcinomas would be removed & they are successfully removed quite often. That's not to say there aren't other areas of pathology as yet unknown but it could be an isolated lesion.
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Probably the reason vet said removing wasn't a good idea is he knows once you start cutting, it will spread fast.

Not really. We had em cut off our old gelding more than once. And it never spread and actually took longer for any to grow back

But like I said earlier. Different horses react differently and maybe it would spread on some horses but those I've heard about it is more successful than freezing or chemo.

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If your vet didn't biopsy/aspirate it and send it to a pathologist, that needs to be done, IMHO. Horses can get all types of skin problems, tumors, and cancers, many of which look very similar, and I wouldn't start a treatment plan without the vet knowing exactly what it is.
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not really. We had em cut off our old gelding more than once. And it never spread and actually took longer for any to grow back

But like I said earlier. Different horses react differently and maybe it would spread on some horses but those I've heard about it is more successful than freezing or chemo.
Like you said, you had to repeatedly have them cut off. In that particular area, it would be difficult to aggressive cut out a tumor that size without impeding the function of the mouth. Along with that growth is a root that needs to come with. I'm pretty sure the vet knew if he started cutting in that area it would spread. I had many small cancerous tumors removed off my doberman a few years back. The cutting actually caused them to spread. Biopsies spread cancer. Look into it. Once you start cutting, you better make sure you got it all, or it will spread thru the blood stream.
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If that were true then no carcinomas would be removed & they are successfully removed quite often. That's not to say there aren't other areas of pathology as yet unknown but it could be an isolated lesion.
I never said ALL carcinomas are not able to be successfully removed. The situation I am referring to is the one on this thread, not ALL carcinomas. This cancer is in a very sensitive, precarious spot. If surgery is too aggressive, the horse will not be able to eat. Not aggressive enough, the cancer WILL SPREAD. That is likely the reason the vet opted not to cut.
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I never said ALL carcinomas are not able to be successfully removed. The situation I am referring to is the one on this thread, not ALL carcinomas. This cancer is in a very sensitive, precarious spot. If surgery is too aggressive, the horse will not be able to eat. Not aggressive enough, the cancer WILL SPREAD. That is likely the reason the vet opted not to cut.
It is exactly why a vet won't use surgery in mouth cancers on horses. The animals can't eat properly and they often refuse to eat at all which means they lose condition rapidly and that results in an even more impaired healing & immune system vital for healthy cell renewal & recovery
The mouth harbours an amazing amount of bacteria so the risks of infection are far greater than in an area that can be protected and treated externally as well as with antibiotics given internally
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This is exactly why I appreciate this forum. I appreciate hearing ALL opinions, it opens my mind to possibilities, probabilities etc. Most of all, hearing past experiences is extremely helpful! Thank you all! I will keep you posted. For now, as said before, my friend is going to follow her vets orders and do chemo every two weeks.
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Like you said, you had to repeatedly have them cut off. In that particular area, it would be difficult to aggressive cut out a tumor that size without impeding the function of the mouth. Along with that growth is a root that needs to come with. I'm pretty sure the vet knew if he started cutting in that area it would spread. I had many small cancerous tumors removed off my doberman a few years back. The cutting actually caused them to spread. Biopsies spread cancer. Look into it. Once you start cutting, you better make sure you got it all, or it will spread thru the blood stream.
whcich is why I said in the first post, that I didnt think they would do that with one on the mouth.....i was speaking about the ones on my gelding.

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