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post #1 of 21 Old 11-02-2012, 11:42 AM Thread Starter
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skinny horse large amounts of feed! is it time?

So I have a 25 year old appendix quarter horse. He was "abused" (he was overused as a trail horse but I think something else happened as he is pretty wary of men) We have had him for 6 months and he has gone nothing but down he is on
3 quarts beet pulp
3 quarts grain
2 cups HESS (high energy/fat supplement)
1/2 cup flax
1 little scoop of vitamins and minerals
and as much hay as he wants (he doesn't eat much of it as he physically can't) he has 2 teeth.

When we got him he was skinny (we could see a couple of ribs and a tiny bit of his hip) now we can see his whole top line all of his ribs and he has probably 2 inches of fuzzy winter coat.

he has become slugish and moves like he is in pain. Do you think its time? I keep telling my mom that the right thing is to put him down as he really looks like his bones are hurting. he is not ridden. he has coliced 2 times in the time we had him. he probably costs 400 dollars to feed per month. any suggestions?
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post #2 of 21 Old 11-02-2012, 11:59 AM
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I think it's time to put him down. Sorry. **hugs**

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If you are going to try to keep him going, I would feed him one of the balanced senior diets. If he can't make it on one of those, then he probably needs to be put down. Poor baby.

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He has been on like every senior feed available he didn't gain weight
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Did you ever have a vet exam and do a cbc? Teeth? Are the organs functioning like they should? Checked for worms? Anemic?
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He has no teeth. He can only suck at his hay. "3 quarts" is not going to do it, period. No wonder he is feeling bad. WEIGH his ration. So you get an idea how many lbs in relation to bodyweight he is getting now. I BET it's not enough. He needs at least 1.5% of his bodyweight a day for maintenance only. To gain weight you need to up that by 20%. And it will take time now. Try alfalfa pellets, together with the beetpulp and a good senior feed. Preferably one which can be given as the sole ration. Feed everything soaked. And feed several times a day, not only once. He needs something in his stomach all the time, or he will get ulcers.

Sorry if I sound a bit harsh....I just get very mad when I hear the "is it time" thing.........
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He has no teeth. He can only suck at his hay. "3 quarts" is not going to do it, period. No wonder he is feeling bad. WEIGH his ration. So you get an idea how many lbs in relation to bodyweight he is getting now. I BET it's not enough. He needs at least 1.5% of his bodyweight a day for maintenance only. To gain weight you need to up that by 20%. And it will take time now. Try alfalfa pellets, together with the beetpulp and a good senior feed. Preferably one which can be given as the sole ration. Feed everything soaked. And feed several times a day, not only once. He needs something in his stomach all the time, or he will get ulcers.

Sorry if I sound a bit harsh....I just get very mad when I hear the "is it time" thing.........
I 100% agree with this. Add an alfalfa pellet to the beet pulp, soak well and feed in at least three meals a day, four would be better. I'd add a good roughage based senior feed as well and soak that too. I would not be giving him hay if he doesn't have teeth to chew it. Maybe a couple handfuls inbetween meals that has been chopped and soaked to give him some chew time but the long steam dry hes probably just balling up and spitting out anywahpy

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He's not getting enough food.

Since he is unable to eat normal hay, you need to get hay cubes or pellets and soak them for him. There's 30yr old pony where I board that has about 3 teeth, she gets Senior feed, beet pulp and timothy hay pellets all soaked together. If her weight dips at all in Winter, I add Alfalfa pellets to the mix as well.

Morning feed person soaks up enough food that we leave a big ol' bucket out for her and she "grazes" on it all day. I then fill a big feed pan at night for in her stall so she has food overnight.

When it's bitter cold, I also throw a few flakes of alfalfa in her stall, she can't eat the stems but she will pick off and eat all the lil leaves. Keeps her eating (and warm) so she doesn't drop weight.
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Oh and also make feed change slowly or he could colic/founder just from overload/change

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Good quality senior feed, beet pulp alfalfa cubes. Soak it all, so it looks like Apple sauce.... Maybe put a 1/2 cup veggie oil on top of feed (it helps our hard keepers) if he only has 2 teeth then I wouldnt bother with hay just keep cube mush in front of him
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