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    03-20-2013, 08:40 PM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by specialdelivery    
so when you say double dose, give him 2 tubes at one time then another 2 tubes two weeks later?
Yes but as SueNH commented, she waited three weeks and I waited four weeks because we aren't that nervy - lollol

My Arab had sweet itch and facial sores the worst of my horses.

He is only 13.3H and weighs 840 lbs. He also has gastric ulcer issues.

His double dose was 1,800 lbs instead of two completely full tubes of pure Ivermectin and it worked.

If you are dealing with NTW's, the sores may get worse anywhere from 12 to 48 hours after you dose the horse, while the microfiliae are dieing off.

You may see your horse itching/rubbing his head a lot more, again because they are dieing off and making his life as miserable as they can.

I use hemerhoid ointment to help keep the itch down because it stays on really well
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    03-20-2013, 08:46 PM
Will it cause any other adverse reactions if neckthread worms is not the culprit
    03-20-2013, 09:01 PM
Subbing, as I have a young Shire in my herd who's come up with a stong resemblance, also dead of winter. :/
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    03-21-2013, 08:51 AM
Green Broke
Originally Posted by specialdelivery    
will it cause any other adverse reactions if neckthread worms is not the culprit
I would worry if the horse is prone to colic or ulcers, has some sort of drug sensitivity, or is ver young.

But, I have the Arab, mentioned above, with gastric ulcers and a TWH with equine metabolic syndrome and hind gut ulcers.

The Arab was 25 and the TWH 23 at the time I double-dosed them and they didn't suffer any ill effects.

I literally dosed them as I was turning them out to pasture that morning. They have a lot of pasture to keep moving on. I watched them all day and they were fine

The TWH got two full tubes, the Arab got dosed at 1,800 lbs as he only weighs 840 lbs.

If you decide to try it, be sure to buy pure Ivermectin, don't buy anything that has something added to the Ivermectin. Ivermectin is supposed to be the safest "of them all"

Parasite Information - Neck Threadworms

There's a 700 page discussion about this on the COTH forum. I read that thread for two years before I finally got up the nerve to double-dose three of my four horses that were exhibiting the symptoms of NTW's.

If you're not dealing with neck threadworms, you have just successfully wormed your horse for Spring and your horse should not suffer any harm.

As with anything, there's always that one in a thousand that something could happen.

The TWH I double-dosed suffered no ill-effects yet five grams of bute (half tablet) will literally drop him to the ground. The vet had to stay 30 minutes extra after he got his rabies shot to be sure his hooves stayed firmly on the ground; he did have a reaction but not too serious.

I once had a horse that was so allergic to fly spray with Skin-So-Soft in it, she cost me a vet bill.

Meaning, 999 horses out of 1,000 can safely be double-dosed for thread worms. After two years of hesitatig, I took the chance because I was not having long-term success with topicals; my Arab's belly line looked like an advertisement for diaper rash cream as soon as the midge flies came out in the Spring.
    03-21-2013, 05:31 PM
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Has he been wormed at a regular dose in the last few months? That's the Only thing I'd worry about, a massive die off of gut worms causing impaction colic if he hasn't been on a regular schedule.

Ivermectin has a tremendous safety margin. I think its like 20x Before you get to toxic levels.
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    03-21-2013, 08:35 PM
I wonder, if a horse has had fecals and dewormed accordingly, could this little TWH scenario still be possible?
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    03-21-2013, 10:02 PM
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Yep! Neck thread worms aren't in the digestive system. Fecals would miss it every time.
    03-21-2013, 11:26 PM
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    03-22-2013, 10:59 AM
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That COTH thread is very good. Can't direct link to it here but it comes up easy enough. Lot of information, maybe even more so than a lot of health and medical sites.
    03-22-2013, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SueNH    
yep! Neck thread worms aren't in the digestive system. Fecals would miss it every time.
All too true, I'm afraid.

That also applies to folks that use daily feed-thru wormers, as well

Which is why I don't understand why double-dosing with Ivermectin works but it does.

I can't balance my checkbook so I don't pretend to try and understand the science behind it.

I just know, from my own nervous experience that double-dosing with Ivermectin worked on my horses. They weren't near as happy as I was because I didn't have to spend time dotting them up with war paint every day, before turnout

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