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        12-01-2009, 07:00 PM
      #1
    Super Moderator
    Something's up with Lacey... Help?

    And I have no clue what's wrong...

    So Lacey has always nickered a little when I get off after riding her but today she was nickering and whinnying and basically freaking out when I got on the first time. Then, she was fine during the ride, btw, when I got off she did the same thing.

    I took all her stuff off and took her over to the mounting block to get back on because I usually ride her bareback back to her field since I'm lazy (haha). As soon as I got her lined up with the mounting block, she started backing up while nickering and whinnying and having her mouth right near my leg. I decided to keep going since I figured it was nothing and I didn't want her to learn that she could get out of being ridden. Well, I got on and she BIT ME IN THE LEG!!! She had her ears forward and I think she was trying to grab my pants and missed but since when does she even try to touch people with her teeth??? Seriously. She let go as soon as she felt my leg but I was concerned by that point, I mean, she has NEVER EVER threatened to bite or actually tried to bite anyone in the year and a half I've known her.
    She then nickered a few more times and settled down. I rode her in a few circles then got off because if she was really hurting I didn't want to push her too far.
    Well, as I got off she started jumping around and humping her back like she wanted to buck (while nickering and whinnying) so I was super confused. I started feeling around on her back for areas she might be sensitive because I was really feeling like she was trying to tell me something. She didn't flinch at all when I ran my fingers kinda deeply down her back but she did kinda look at me when I poked her lower flank area (which she doesn't usually care about me touching) so I poked her a bit harder and BAM she KICKED ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    She's never kicked before, ever. I've seen her kick another horse about once. She's not aggressive at all. This is very very out of character for her.
    Thankfully I was standing very close to her so she only caught the inside of my upper thigh, but boy do I have a bruise and it's only been 3 hours.

    So my conclusion is that she's in pain of some sort... Do you think she could be having some sort of reproductive issues that are making her all lovey but then sensitive down there? She's really not obvious when she's in heat, never mare-ish and this behavior is SOOOO SUPER out of character for her.

    What could this be? Do I need the vet to come see her? Chiro? She had all of last week off except for Monday and Friday and yesterday and she was totally fine all of those days. Nickering of course, but that's what she does. Should I give her more time off? I warmed her up for a good hour before riding today, we did 15 minutes of ground driving and then some hand walking and a small smidge of free lunging.

    Help? I'm really kinda worried about her....
         
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        12-01-2009, 08:05 PM
      #2
    Foal
    Well it deffantely sounds to me like there's something that's causing her pain. If it were me I would call the vet.

    As for her vocal behavior...i did know a mare and gelding whpo fell in love. And cried for each other like crazy. One day I even remember the gelding wouldn't go into the arena cause he didn't wanna leave her...maybe...yer horse has a boyfriend?
         
        12-01-2009, 08:13 PM
      #3
    Super Moderator
    Yeah, she's pretty much a loner, no really good buddies. She had a "boyfriend" for a while but then he got moved because kept breaking down fences.
    And the vocalizations are only when I get on and get off. Someone was thinking that maybe she's super happy to see me when I get off or something but since it seems to be in conjunction with the bi-otchy-ness I'm wondering whether they're related.
         
        12-01-2009, 08:18 PM
      #4
    Weanling
    Has she ever done this before? We had a mare that got really sore in her flank area during her first heat of the year. I wonder if it could be something similar to that. I would lay off until you get a vet out to look at her. If you ride her while she hurts and she acts up it could cause her to make it a habit. You were smart to get off and not have her getting more upset.
         
        12-01-2009, 08:30 PM
      #5
    Super Moderator
    She never been like this before. I mean, she's been rude, crude, and socially unacceptable but she's never been mouthy or kicky. She used to be very explosive but that was mostly shutting down, this wasn't shutting down, it was more "I'm trying to tell you something" sorta reactionary-ness.

    She's great when she's in heat...most of the time the only way you can tell she's in is if you're messing with her tail(she'll put it to one side) or there's a gelding nearby and she'll wink and pee a little at him. She's very not mare-ish.

    Thanks, yeah, I try to listen to her a lot because in the beginning I didn't and things got bad quickly. So I learned my lesson and now I listen to her when she starts having issues.

    And I can't get my riding instructor to look at her because she got in a car accident on Sunday and is still in the hospital (she broke 2-3 vertebrae). >.<
         
        12-01-2009, 08:30 PM
      #6
    Yearling
    Its certainly odd.
    It was smart to get off her. Something could be hurting her.
    Maybe its a 'lady' issue?
    My mum's old mare was never ever mareish at all, but one day a new stallion came along across the road and BAM! Hello 'Little Miss In Season!'
    I would definitely be keeping an eye on her and checking her everyday. Has she got a temperature? Or any heat in her legs or something? I'd just be checking her all over and if it doesn't improve, I'd get a vet out.
         
        12-01-2009, 08:36 PM
      #7
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SmoothTrails    
    Has she ever done this before? We had a mare that got really sore in her flank area during her first heat of the year. I wonder if it could be something similar to that. I would lay off until you get a vet out to look at her. If you ride her while she hurts and she acts up it could cause her to make it a habit. You were smart to get off and not have her getting more upset.
    that's what I was going to suggest, it could just be some ovarian pain. Many mares get very vocal like that when they come into heat, and if she is tender around her flanks it could very well be her ovaries giving her a bit of 'girly' grief. The humping her back is a pretty common indicator or ovarian pain as well.

    I'd give her a week in the paddock to just be a horse and if it is that she's just being marish then that should give her tiem to work it out of her system. If she comes in still not right, I'd give your vet a buzz and see what they think.
         
        12-01-2009, 08:44 PM
      #8
    Trained
    Mares generally don't get girlie grief like women do. It sounds like colic to me. She did not miss when she bit you on the leg she meant to bite you not your pants. If she were my horse I would check on her tonight and make sure she wasn't down with colic. If she is sweating or laying down and standing up you need to call the vet immediatly.
         
        12-01-2009, 08:45 PM
      #9
    Foal
    I would keep my eye on her. If she is sore in her flank area sometimes this is colic. Watch to see if they are pulled up. Like the muscles are tight in her flanks. Is she trying to roll? If so you need to call your vet immediatly. Sometimes they can have mild colic. Not roll but have adominal pains. Id really watch her. If this mare has never done this before something is up. Horses don't change for no reason. Sounds pretty serious to me. May want to have vet check her anyways just for your own comfort.
         
        12-01-2009, 08:49 PM
      #10
    Weanling
    Maybe she got kicked in the flank and it's bruised, but not swollen? Also, and this is more unlikely, a horse I knew once had an intestinal problem (it could have been a tumor or a piece of metal that punctured her intestine, we never found out which) but in any event, she spent a few days in extreme discomfort that got worse and worse. It wasn't colic, but it was abdomen pain like you're describing, though Lacey's is less severe. I'd get a vet out soon to take a look.
         

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