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    01-10-2014, 06:59 PM
Spooked and scatter brained

My dad recently got a horse! And he's great! His personality and mannerism is great he's 8 years old and I don't want him to develop bad habits that he could "learn" from my gelding..my horse is somewhat a mess..I've wrote on here before about him..he's great on the trail and all that but he's got an arrogant disposition and he thinks he's boss of everyone and everything..some articles I've read say how the feed could make a horse more nervous and my horse is spooky but not all the time the feed we get is 24% protein and pellets and such but the molasses is what I think might be making him insane..it's like people having a "sugar rush" and I also want to get VitaCalm for him..but what I want is a nice gentle FRIENDLY gelding..and I'm not willing to sell my horse I just want to be able to change him and I'll do whatever it takes because I'm not giving up on him..I know he can be changed..so what are your opinions? If I need to tell more about my situation I will..I hope I've explained it enough. One other thing what feeds do y'all recommend? Thanks!!!
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    01-11-2014, 04:27 AM
I would cut the "sugar rush" out for sure.
Vita calm sounds like a great idea, defiantly can't hurt to alter his diet.
How much ground work do you do??
Daily work that puts you in an authoritative position would do wonders (if you don't already!). Constant activities that portray you as the "fearless,take no crap leader" may be enough to put this boy in his place (haha!). My final suggestion is don't let him get away with ANYTHING ever.... The plus side is Once he sees you as a leader he will relax quiet a bit and follow you lead 😀.
As I said these are just my suggestions ... I could be way off and you may already do all these things but just in case lol.
Also I admire your perseverance with him, good on you 😃.
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    01-11-2014, 10:41 AM
Hmm... 24% protein sounds really high to me (at least in my neck of the woods) I usually only feed a small amount of 12 or 14% to my easy keepers. If I increase the amount that they're getting or change the level of protein they start to see horse eating dragons behind every leaf or bush. If I keep their grained portions at a minimum and use a vitamin/mineral supplement they do just fine.

I have used Vita Calm before. I don't think it changed the personality so much as just made my gelding really "chill".

Good luck getting your boy straightened out. If you have access to a trainer they can be great resources too!
    01-11-2014, 10:56 AM
Cut the sweet high protein feed out completely. Even a handful of that stuff can be so detrimental to a horses system. Could be contributing to the bad mannerisms. Vita calm is a good option, but you can also just start out with magnesium and see how it goes. It's also way cheaper in the long run.
    01-11-2014, 11:19 AM
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Adding some sort of calmer won't do much of anything until you get rid of the source of the horse's angst ---------the feed

Liken it to a diabetic loading up on two dozen cupcakes, then wondering why the meds to control their insulin doesn't work

I have a horse in similar vein to what you describe. He is oat/corn and SOY intolerant. Soy is his worst enemy.

I stopped needing the riding crop in the bath bucket within two weeks of taking him off grain & soy products. I might add I had been arguing with him about 13 years of the 15 I had owned him, when I took him off grain/soy.

I feed him a ration balancer than is grain and soy-free. If your horse is a hard keeper, this may not work as it is designed to control weight.

McCauley'sŪ M10 Balancer

While the change in his personality was remarkable, what really helped turn him into the horse, on a daily basis, that I only used to catch glimpses of was Remission.

I suspect he is one of those horses that is magnesium deficient. He is on one enclosed scoop daily until Spring grass comes on, then he will receive two scoops daily.

This horse has been with me 17+ years and I am still kicking myself for not figuring this out years ago

His personality changed so much for the better, even the vet asked if Rusty was sick when he gave Rusty his physical last June

Hope this helps:)
    01-11-2014, 01:31 PM
Hey thank you guys so much all of you!!! I appreciate the advice!!!
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    01-11-2014, 01:49 PM
First and foremost, horses need hay or grass which provided needed fiber because that is what the gut is designed for. Unless your horses are working ie ridden at least two hours daily almost every day they need nothing else. A feed with higher protein than in hay helps carry a horse through several hours when it can't eat enough hay. I'm going to suggest you wean your horse down to just hay and see if that reduces his energy. When you trail ride, he may feel the other horses are invading his space (they too have one) and he's telling them to stay out of it. This isn't arrogance it is herd behaviour that riders either don't recognise or fail to help the horse.

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