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        03-19-2008, 12:00 AM
      #21
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by appylover31803
    thanks

    I'll let you know the outcome tomorrow!

    I'm also glad I had a fraud charge on my card. I would have bought the calm supplement earlier today.
    fraud charge?
         
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        03-19-2008, 11:00 AM
      #22
    Trained
    Yahh, someone took my credit card numbers and bought stuff in the netherlands, online though. Over $150 in stuff!

    My bank contacted me and wanted to verify that stuff, and I didn't make them (they were made at 7am in the morning, I was still sound asleep) so they deactivated my card.

    But I got my new card yesterday when I went home after work.
         
        03-19-2008, 12:10 PM
      #23
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by appylover31803

    I know Sonny had mentioned keeping her out 24/7 and I don't like their pastures(thin wire fence, extremely muddy) but I totally forgot about the lower barn! I will have to ask if any space is going to open up (i know a few people are leaving the lower barn, so a space should open up) I'll also talk to Tom and tell him this is what I wanna do. Saying that it should help her out some.
    The wire I can see why you don't like, but mud isn't too much of a problem, as long as you clean her hooves out regularly. Sonny's pasture is just dirt...and in the winter...it's mud. He hasn't had trush or any problems (other than being a little muddy on the legs) because of the mud. I usually picture it this way "if Sonny was wild, he'd be in mud with no one to clean his hooves or anything, so he'll do fine in mud as long as I clean his hooves".

    Also being out in a pasture, even for 2 hours will let her run around, and get some energy out that she can't get out while in a stall. Which will probably help you
         
        03-19-2008, 12:37 PM
      #24
    Trained
    Well it's just just like mud, it's like knee deep mud all over the place. And she has had thrush and scratches in the past.

    As of right now, she's staying where she is, but I will just have to go up there everyday and exercise her and spend time with her.

    Another thing I forgot to say in my other post in the off topic area, is that Tom suggested I turn her out in a ring, let her run around for a bit, and then I work her and make her listen to me and stuff. Which is a good idea. I guess i'll give this option like a month or so and see if there's a change, if not to the lower barn she'll go
         
        03-19-2008, 12:45 PM
      #25
    Banned
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by appylover31803
    well it's just just like mud, it's like knee deep mud all over the place. And she has had thrush and scratches in the past.

    As of right now, she's staying where she is, but I will just have to go up there everyday and exercise her and spend time with her.

    Another thing I forgot to say in my other post in the off topic area, is that Tom suggested I turn her out in a ring, let her run around for a bit, and then I work her and make her listen to me and stuff. Which is a good idea. I guess i'll give this option like a month or so and see if there's a change, if not to the lower barn she'll go
    wow, knee deep? I wouldn't want Sonny in there...I thought you meant just muddy as in hoof deep. Wow, and I thought the partures here were bad haha.

    Yeah I'd turn her out in the arena or ring and just let her do whatever. Let her frolic around. It will get energy out, possibly calm her down, and she'll enjoy it also
         
        03-19-2008, 12:48 PM
      #26
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SonnyWimps
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by appylover31803
    well it's just just like mud, it's like knee deep mud all over the place. And she has had thrush and scratches in the past.

    As of right now, she's staying where she is, but I will just have to go up there everyday and exercise her and spend time with her.

    Another thing I forgot to say in my other post in the off topic area, is that Tom suggested I turn her out in a ring, let her run around for a bit, and then I work her and make her listen to me and stuff. Which is a good idea. I guess i'll give this option like a month or so and see if there's a change, if not to the lower barn she'll go
    wow, knee deep? I wouldn't want Sonny in there...I thought you meant just muddy as in hoof deep. Wow, and I thought the partures here were bad haha.

    Yeah I'd turn her out in the arena or ring and just let her do whatever. Let her frolic around. It will get energy out, possibly calm her down, and she'll enjoy it also
    I might have exaggerated, but it is deeper than just hoof deep. If you look at the video of me falling off Gem, you can see how deep just the paddock is, the pasture is deeper.

    I'll try letting her be silly and then go right into training stuff
         
        03-19-2008, 01:37 PM
      #27
    Yearling
    Okay....I am guessing a combo here...testing age, spring fever, and stalling.

    Stay constinstant, and don't let her get away with her attitude. Use your parelli 7 games to build the tools you need to handle her attitude. You might even give her handlers a few basics to help them out. I think the yo-yo game is going to be your biggest friend (although all will help). When she acts up - yo-you her until she is all they way back at the end of her rope. Then resume leading with her back there (but keep an eye on her so she doesn't bolt forward and run you over). Every time she acts up, yo-yo her back away from you.

    Also, I would agree that turning her out 24/7 would be better than stall keeping, but since that does not sound like an option, I agree with Tom. Every time you come out - turn her out to run and play. Then work her. If you do no riding at all, at least do parelli with her. :)

    I do not put much stock in calming supplements, but that is just me. I would at least try all other options before spending money on that. I do think that it would not hurt to reduce her grain even more until you are riding her again....If it will not affect her weight, just keep her on a minimal amount of grain (a handful - just enough to mix her vitamins), and just her hay. Watch her weight carefully, but if she is not doing a lot of riding, and is standing in a stall, she has no need for all that energy. I try to go to an only hay diet whenever possible, but of course add what is needed when they need it. Because Vega is HYPP, keep the same grain, just give a tiny amount, that way you can build it up again when needed, and not actually be changing her type of diet. I would slowly reduce the amount too rather than just over night. :)

    Good luck :)
         
        03-19-2008, 02:03 PM
      #28
    Trained
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AKPaintLover
    Okay....I am guessing a combo here...testing age, spring fever, and stalling.

    Stay constinstant, and don't let her get away with her attitude. Use your parelli 7 games to build the tools you need to handle her attitude. You might even give her handlers a few basics to help them out. I think the yo-yo game is going to be your biggest friend (although all will help). When she acts up - yo-you her until she is all they way back at the end of her rope. Then resume leading with her back there (but keep an eye on her so she doesn't bolt forward and run you over). Every time she acts up, yo-yo her back away from you.

    Also, I would agree that turning her out 24/7 would be better than stall keeping, but since that does not sound like an option, I agree with Tom. Every time you come out - turn her out to run and play. Then work her. If you do no riding at all, at least do parelli with her. :)

    I do not put much stock in calming supplements, but that is just me. I would at least try all other options before spending money on that. I do think that it would not hurt to reduce her grain even more until you are riding her again....If it will not affect her weight, just keep her on a minimal amount of grain (a handful - just enough to mix her vitamins), and just her hay. Watch her weight carefully, but if she is not doing a lot of riding, and is standing in a stall, she has no need for all that energy. I try to go to an only hay diet whenever possible, but of course add what is needed when they need it. Because Vega is hypp, keep the same grain, just give a tiny amount, that way you can build it up again when needed, and not actually be changing her type of diet. I would slowly reduce the amount too rather than just over night. :)

    Good luck :)
    I will ask the BO if I can reduce her grain a bit. I think she's on 1 scoop now, maybe drop it down to 3/4 or something. Or just ask for their opinion on it. When I was up there on Friday, when Gem had his vet app't. I saw a girl walk her in with another horse and she still did her prancing, but no bucks (that I could see anyways) so maybe if she's brought in with another horse that might help. I feel i'm not that skilled to do that yet, but if there's a really calm horse I could take her in with, I might do that. Maybe i'll try with Gem. I'll have to see.

    I do want to do all possible options before a supplement. I'll try the daily exercise for like a month or so and see if she improves. If there's a little improvement, I might want to bring her to the lower barn so she gets pasture turn out (do you think if she has room to stretch her legs that might help?). If that doesn't help, i'll have the review my options.

    She had just turned 4 when I got her, so she could have realized that I wasn't going to beat the poo out of her if she did something, like i'm sure they did with her.

    We haven't quite mastered the yo-yo game, but I do back her up when she's being a jerk and I proceed from there. Anytime I feel her tense up, I back her up. I also elbow her in the neck, or push my butt into her and she'll walk.

    I've also been thinking about getting a chain I know i've previously said I'll never use one, but maybe that will make her realize i'm serious. (as of right now I just loop my current lead over her nose, and she used to responde great to it, but no so much anymore. I'd like to use the chain a few times, then go back to my current lead.)

    Thanks for everyone's help! If I didn't have you guys, you'd probably see an ad for her on all those horsey sites
         
        03-19-2008, 06:00 PM
      #29
    Yearling
    Do you have a rope halter? If not, try one of those before a chain. It would not hurt to use a chain properly, but if you can try some of the Parelli work with her, I think she and you both will be much happier in the end. :) You can achieve the same control and safety with parelli work and a rope halter, and your horse won't wince her head up in anticipation of a jerk with the chain. :)
         
        03-19-2008, 06:23 PM
      #30
    Trained
    AK you're the best! I did get the Parelli Rope halter and lead. It's somewhere though. I have to locate it. That would definitely be good to use.

    Yeahh I was looking at the chains and was like "no I don't like that one. Don't like that one. Nope, not that one either"

    I did see like a replacement chain that I could just take on or off, but i'll try the rope halter whenever I walk her, but I didn't get it.

    I'll find my rope halter and the 12ft lead and use that on her from now on.

    Thanks again.
         

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