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post #21 of 23 Old 03-20-2011, 02:04 PM
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The idea that you can create a proud cut gelding by leaving the epididymis in the castration process and end up with stallion like behavior and physique is not backed by scientific data.

02 Stallion-like Behavior in Geldings - - a VIN company!
This is another clear concise explaination. You will not find any published research that state otherwise. They're all written by DVMs as is The Horse article. I have never heard one of my vets (15 or more in my lifetime) promote that concept either in over 30 castrations.

So how did the vet come to the conclusion that he is proud cut?

I too worked in the Arab industry back in the early 80's in S Ca. They were breeding super hot horses but also in looking back, they were all poorly trained outside of the arena. I can attibute most of the behavior to the training and lack of socialization.

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How did he determine your horse was proud cut? Did he take blood samples, because unless there is an actual testicle to feel, he would not be able to say without blood tests that the horse is proud cut. I still stand by the fact that its a behavior issue. No matter whether he's intact, totally gelded, proud cut, there is no excuse for him acting like a ninny. I work with stallions, all the ones I currently work are VERY well behaved, listen no matter whats going on, and ignore the mares in heat until given the go ahead to get excited, and even then they pay attention to the handler and what the handler is asking. And only in the breeding shed to they use a stud chain on their stallions. He really just needs someone with the time and patience to work with him, and teach him manners. You probably won't be able to "sell" him, not even sure if you would be able to get a "rehoming fee", but at the least I'm sure that you could find a decent home if you decide to give him away. Best of luck to you.
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Thanks. In talking with you all I have learned that while my parents geldings did not act like this that it seems to be the norm for geldings to act dangerous and not be good kids horses at any time in there life. So, I'm to go on the knowledge that all these "kid broke geldings" are actually dangerous animals that someone is trying to sell for a lot of money. Again not sure what we will do with this horse, but I will never ever own a gelding again. If someone tried to get me to ride one or my kids I will tell them to take a hike.

I do want to thank you all for setting me straight here. While we were told he was proud cut my vet must have lost his mind so there for I assume by the way you are talking that I also do not need to take my horses to the vet either as they can not be trusted either. Either way it actually doesn't matter if proud cut or not there is nothing we can do about it. I mean really if there is nothing to be done it basically doesn't matter if there is any such thing as proud cut or not. What is the point in arguing what is wrong when it again there is nothing to be done.
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