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post #21 of 32 Old 08-17-2010, 01:52 AM
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Where are these pictures from?
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post #22 of 32 Old 08-17-2010, 01:54 AM Thread Starter
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ha ya google. Two horses are from the us... the one with slit throat was from turkey for animal testing.... not for food... and yes theyre from the internet but I could personally go around myself in the country and take pics myself and could show you the same thing even that one dude put a pic on here from a horse just down her road...
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So one picture is from Turkey, the ones from the UK that were also posted, and the ones in the US. So when you say those people in other countries that should know better, you are making broad sweeping claims, and then it turns out that two of the cases are from two of the most civilised countries in the world. Do you think that the SPCA and the RSPCA aren't doing a good enough job?

I still think the horse from Turkey is a meat slaughter. It is killed the right way, in the right part of the world. On top of that - why would you kill a horse that looks otherwise in good health (apart from the dead thing, generally not good for the health) if you were using it for testing??
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Although I love the enthusiasm, I don't think everyone's going to change because you say so. I too would love to contribute to the cause of stopping such abuse, but I'm not going to quit my job, fly there, and wag a flag to get their attention. Like others have said - it's how some were raised, and although a certain amount of awareness to proper care can be raised, when you only have so much money to feed your family, it's the livestock that go without - even if they're the livelyhood.

In no way am I trying to justify intensional starving of a horse, but to say you'd quit your degree...in vet school? You'll be more helpful and make more of a difference as a vet able to TREAT what's happened to show awareness as opposed to quitting. Maybe I misread your posts, but I'd stick with your classes for now...I do understand how frustrating it is to feel helpless in the situation though!

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ya I know and no the horse was not for slaughter it as for testing go to the cite I have listed you can read and watch the video. But I don't care I still believe if theres a will theres a way
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Did you read the article at all? Because according to that site, they are being bled for medical products, namely serum from the blood, not for medical tests. So those horses' blood is being used to treat humans. Like ES said, humans should and do come first.

And should it be the case that this is what is really going on (it says the video was taken by PETA, who are a group of nut jobs if you ask me) then I would hazard a guess that the rest of the horse is being used in some way too - meat, leather, glue etc.

There is ALWAYS three versions of the truth, and every thing you read on the internet should be taken as opinion rather than hard and fast facts.
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Go to vet school. Then you can come here and volunteer your services to my rescue. Last year we paid about 36 thousand dollars in vet bills alone. That is a lot of hay. If I could get a vet to donate their time, I could do so much more.

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What I was trying to point out about human evolution is that we all have the intelligence to know and see when something else is suffering and we also have tools and knowledge to not cause a prolonged and suffering death.

I can't really say wether or not the video was accurate in saying the horses throat was cut in order to get blood to help humans. Lets just assume the article was accurate. If it was, then I have to pose this question. How come when a human goes to donate blood, their throats aren't cut and bled out? This goes back to human evolution....we know how to get blood without having to cause the donor death.
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post #29 of 32 Old 08-17-2010, 06:31 AM
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animals are used for testing every day and in many cases it is highly beneficial, I don't agree with any testing that causes pain or disfigurement to an animal but if the animal is killed for testing fair enough, a lot of advancements in health (of humans and animals) could not have been acheived without testing. I myself was learning about hoof anatomy and hoof trimming on the weekend using equine cadaver legs. If your horse gets sick, you can thank testing in the past for your vet knowing how to fix the problem.

I assume you eat meat? Have you ever considered the suffering the factory farmed chickens and pigs go through before they land on your dinner plate? And that is right there in your own back yard.

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How do you plan on making the money to travel & "educate" people? Stick to being a vet, you can make a much larger difference. I know plenty of rescues that would LOVE to get free (or even discounted!) vet services, and therefore they would be able to rescue more horses.

I know there are horses suffering in other countries, but you should start with your OWN country! There are plenty of horses to rescue here, too!

A lot of people groups have traditions & even religions that they are taught to do certain things like bleeding out horses, or cutting off ears (I've seen it on the news, don't remember which country/religion). So good luck changing a culture that is thousands of years old. On the bright side, there are more horses in the US then there are in smaller countries like Turkey or those middle east countries that are known for their uh, different ways of life.

So stop ranting on the HF where we all love horses and hate cruelty, and make your own web sites/organizations to stop cruelty. Too much talk, not enough action.

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