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    03-14-2011, 07:09 PM
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Foal
Strange symptoms...Case of colic?

#1. I have called the veterinarian and he is helping how he can
#2. Please only helpful and knowledgeable posts...Im not asking for rude opinions

Late yesterday afternoon, my 6yr old mare started showing signs of what we think to be colic. She was being trailered for a trail ride with a loft full of hay and she just stopped eating. Lacey does not, not eat :/ We thought at first she was ticked for being so close to the other horses (she is the alpha mare and very moody) so we continued to the ride. Rode for about an hour and a half, and she started acting STRANGE. She was flicking her tail, holding it to the side weird, and stomping her back feet. So I dismounted and checked her out, and her hips and the area behind her ribs looked caved in. Strange, I know and Im not sure how else to describe it. I also looked at her rear, and even more strange her anus also looked very sunk in? She became even more and more uncomfortable, so I got her home and unsaddled. She was laying down last night and occasionally looking at her sides. We left her be as she had passed a bowel movement on the ride, and she didn't seem too distressed. Checked on her at about 2:30am and she was up and walking around. Got up at 6:30am and she was flat on her side.

I went and got a Benamine shot and administered it about 8am. She started showing signs of recovering about 9am and it was back and forth. I had to come back home during class to keep her up, apparently she kept going down while I was gone. I got her up and kept her walking for about 2 1/2 hours. In that time, she passed a small bowel movement and then proceeded to lay down as soon as I stopped walking her. Like I said we called the vet and went over all the symptoms he said there was not much else we can do except let her rest a bit, give her more Banamine tonight, and nurse her through it.

Anyway, I know the symptoms of colic and caving in of the hips and the anus are not two I am familiar with. So long story short I am curious as to whether or not these are symptoms other people have dealt with? And where I can read up about it, the vet didn't really say anything about it...thanks and anything helps.
     
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    03-14-2011, 08:23 PM
  #2
Weanling
If your vet hasn't answered these questions, get a new vet. Has the vet been out to see your horse? Colic isn't something to wait around with and see. I recently lost a horse to colic. His only symptom was he wasn't eating much of his grain but was eating hay. Gave banamine. Fine next day. Following day. He was almost gone when we went to feed. Vet came immediately and did everything she could. She said his problem was surgical, possibly a tumor, but still. It sounds like your horse is colicing but whether she is or isn't you need to get a vet out asap. Vets can tell right away if it is colic or not. Either you have a very unintelligent vet or the vet hasn't actually been out and has just talked to you over the phone. If I called my vet up and told her what you just said, she would be out immediately. I consider that an emergency.
     
    03-14-2011, 08:42 PM
  #3
Green Broke
Last summer my mare coliced. Thoughs were her symptoms. I agree new vet ASAP! Banamine is not always a good idea for a colicing horse. If she has had BM's and still sick she needs to be SEEN by a GOOD vet ASAP!!!
     
    03-14-2011, 08:50 PM
  #4
Started
So your vet is only giving advice over the phone? He/she won't come out or you don't want the vet to come out? I'm sorry, but with the symptoms you are describing, this horse needs to see a vet immediately. Sounds like she needs to be given mineral oil by tube, a rectal exam to see what is going on and then something more than bannamine. That will NOT cure colic, just take away some of the pain, but the issue is still there.
A horse can roll from colic and go from a mild case of colic to a twisted gut and death ..
IF the vet will not come out, get another vet immediately.
     
    03-15-2011, 11:35 AM
  #5
Weanling
Updates???
     
    03-15-2011, 11:38 AM
  #6
Showing
Sounds like impaction colic, and your vet sounds like a moron.
     
    03-15-2011, 12:01 PM
  #7
Foal
I hope your horse got the help it needed.

A couple of years ago my horse started to colic in the morning, and I had the vet out 3 times, doing everything from a rectal exam to a ultimately a nose enema, after which we took him to the clinic around midnight. We had walked him for 8 hours straight, taking turns throughout the day.

At the clinic they did blood work and said that he was minutes away from going into shock. Three choices: 1. Wait and he will not make it 2. Have him put down 3. Operate him right away

I had him operated, and know I was incredibly fortunate that he made a full recovery.

What I remember as the most striking was that the vet told me that even though he had bowel movement that afternoon, and he had started to nibble on hay a little, those were not signs of improvement, and he needed more help. The vet at the clinic told me he showed his symptoms late (apparently robust/pony breeds tough it out for quite long), and so now I take even the slightest change in my horses incredibly serious.

Like everyone else said above - do whatever it takes to get the help your horse needs!
     
    03-15-2011, 01:45 PM
  #8
Weanling
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Originally Posted by BarnQueen    
I hope your horse got the help it needed.

A couple of years ago my horse started to colic in the morning, and I had the vet out 3 times, doing everything from a rectal exam to a ultimately a nose enema, after which we took him to the clinic around midnight. We had walked him for 8 hours straight, taking turns throughout the day.

At the clinic they did blood work and said that he was minutes away from going into shock. Three choices: 1. Wait and he will not make it 2. Have him put down 3. Operate him right away

I had him operated, and know I was incredibly fortunate that he made a full recovery.

What I remember as the most striking was that the vet told me that even though he had bowel movement that afternoon, and he had started to nibble on hay a little, those were not signs of improvement, and he needed more help. The vet at the clinic told me he showed his symptoms late (apparently robust/pony breeds tough it out for quite long), and so now I take even the slightest change in my horses incredibly serious.

Like everyone else said above - do whatever it takes to get the help your horse needs!
This is exactly what happened with my horse. And I too will never take the first sign of colic lightly ever again. Although when we discovered what was going on and how serious it was, it was too late to get him to a clinic for surgery. Colic is not something to mess around with!
I hope your horse is ok and will be checking back for an update from you!
     
    03-15-2011, 01:54 PM
  #9
Banned
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Originally Posted by wyominggrandma    
So your vet is only giving advice over the phone? He/she won't come out or you don't want the vet to come out? I'm sorry, but with the symptoms you are describing, this horse needs to see a vet immediately. Sounds like she needs to be given mineral oil by tube, a rectal exam to see what is going on and then something more than bannamine. That will NOT cure colic, just take away some of the pain, but the issue is still there.
A horse can roll from colic and go from a mild case of colic to a twisted gut and death ..
IF the vet will not come out, get another vet immediately.
I agree, time for another vet.

Do you have any updates?


Just a tid bit. The theories now are that if a horse is down and quiet there is no reason to get them up and force them to walk.
     
    03-15-2011, 01:59 PM
  #10
Green Broke
I've lost two horses (on separate occasions a few years apart) to colic. I tried to save each of them for about a week. As I could not afford surgery and they were in their mid 20's, we finally decided to put them down when all the tubing with mineral/water on multiple occasions, along with Banamine did not help. Not fun.

Banamine CAN help with a minor case. It can ease the pain so the horse can relax and if is a minor tummy ache it can pull them out of it. I've seen that happen in less than an hour. But a horse can linger on for a week or more with an impaction or something similar. The time to do something is now. Waiting generally does not help. If it goes on for days, the prognosis just gets worse and worse, at least in my personal experience.

Best of luck, I hope she is doing better.
     

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