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    04-12-2012, 12:17 AM
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Foal
Strangles! **picture** is gross. Riding question concerning the strangles as well.

So, my horse came back from the barrel trainer and had an abscess. The trainer just thought it was an ordinary abscess and well so did I. 2 days after we got her home she started snotting every where, being lethargic, drinking little sips of water, barely eating if at all and she was all depressed. Called the vet they did a swab of her nose and it came back strangles. I have never delt with strangles had only heard about it. It took almost a week for her abscess to open up and drain by then she was just horried she was in pain and couldn't eat. Vet told us 5 days of penicillin and bute until she didn't need it. After 3 days of penicillin and bute twice a day she was back to her normal self and the abscess started to open. It's been open for 4 days I think and I took this picture yesterday. **WARNING** If you have a weak stomach do not look please. Since the photo has been taken the abscess is as of today is pink and healing. The yellow stuff you see hanging off of her hair isn't puss its Amish healing gel that keeps the flys away and is helping her sore.



Little did we know when we got her home she had strangles and we put her in the pasture with my other horse. 2 days ago my other horse started showing signs, not snotting but you could see the swelling underneath her jaw. Came home after a full day of shopping it had opened and was leaking. By today there was no swelling and it was looking fine and open. So she should be okay.


My question is after they heal. The vet said it can take up to 4 to 6 weeks. After they heal and the abscess are gone and dried up. How long should I not ride them after they have healed? And if I do how long should our first couple rides be? There both in shape and we're in training for barrels before the strangles there both at a lope. I had planned on going to an exhibition on the 25 but now that is way out of the question. This place I plan on going to has exhibitions at 6 ever Wednesday night of every month. When do you think I would be able to take them to the exhibitions? I am in NO hurry, I want what is best for my horses. If I had to quit barrel racing for them I would no question. I want nothing but the best for them, even if that means giving up the sport we all like to do.





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    04-12-2012, 12:23 AM
  #2
Trained
That is horrible! I'd also be pissed that my horse came back from the trainer's like that. Was this horse vaccinated against strangles as a foal?

Did you contact the trainer and let them know your horse contracted strangles there so they can notify everyone at the stable to be on the lookout for signs for their own horses?

I'm glad your horse is okay though and that you caught this fairly quickly

BTW: That picture is just nasty. LoL.
     
    04-12-2012, 12:35 AM
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Trained
To answer you question about competing. You should not remove your horse from the premises until the last horse has been clear of any signs of strangles for 30 days at least. The vet should have quarantined your place so that no horses come in and none go out for the duration.
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    04-12-2012, 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CLaPorte432    
That is horrible! I'd also be pissed that my horse came back from the trainer's like that. Was this horse vaccinated against strangles as a foal?

Did you contact the trainer and let them know your horse contracted strangles there so they can notify everyone at the stable to be on the lookout for signs for their own horses?

I'm glad your horse is okay though and that you caught this fairly quickly

BTW: That picture is just nasty. LoL.
I did notify her. She was really calm about it though. She said "She should be okay its just like chicken pox for humans and she probably wont get it again." She was apologizing about it too. I'm not real worried. I mean this is just something horses get and a lot of the time they come out fine. But I'll just keep watching closely and making sure they stay that way. I don't think it was the trainers fault either, she kept her separate from most of the horses.


I am not sure if she was vaced when she was a foal. She's eight now and I have only had her coming up on three years this month, I just didn't get there shots this year yet. For all I know it could have been laying dormant for a year or so then being in and around a new stall, barn other horse smells ect it decided to rear its ugliness lol.
     
    04-12-2012, 12:45 AM
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Foal
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Originally Posted by Dreamcatcher Arabians    
To answer you question about competing. You should not remove your horse from the premises until the last horse has been clear of any signs of strangles for 30 days at least. The vet should have quarantined your place so that no horses come in and none go out for the duration.
There's no other horses around. Except for the ones about a block down the road which my horses haven't had contact with since the last time I rode with them and that was before my mare who had the strangles came home. They haven't been out of the pasture other then to the tying post to get there sores cleaned and haven't come into contact with any other horses at all for the past 2 weeks. I am taking all the precautions though, disinfection everything cleaning out there water trough every day there feed bowls ect. So if any other horse gets it it'll be beyond me how they got it. Because they've been no where near my sick horses. Both my horses are quarantined together at this point and have been for the past 2 weeks.
     
    04-12-2012, 02:21 AM
  #6
Trained
Strangles can be far worse than chicken pox to a human and it is extremely contagiouse. How soon you can ride them depends on the indivudual horse. Once the absesses have drained, fully scabbed over, etc., it is usually obviouse they are "doing better", but a bad case can take a lot out of them. They may look 100 percent, but will tire more easily and just need more "rest". When you do finally ride (after they have fully recovered), just make it short and really pay attention to your horse's overall health to determine how "back on the step" they are. It is pretty rare, but they can get ******* strangles. More common, they get some easily curable respiratory infection or "something" b/c their immune system was weakened.
     
    04-12-2012, 04:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Missy May    
Strangles can be far worse than chicken pox to a human and it is extremely contagiouse. How soon you can ride them depends on the indivudual horse. Once the absesses have drained, fully scabbed over, etc., it is usually obviouse they are "doing better", but a bad case can take a lot out of them. They may look 100 percent, but will tire more easily and just need more "rest". When you do finally ride (after they have fully recovered), just make it short and really pay attention to your horse's overall health to determine how "back on the step" they are. It is pretty rare, but they can get ******* strangles. More common, they get some easily curable respiratory infection or "something" b/c their immune system was weakened.
I do know about ******* strangles and only 20% of horses get them who have strangles and sometimes don't recover from it. I also heard and read working them to hard after they have recovered can cause them to get pneumonia or "something" like you described that is usually treatable. As for the chicken pox saying. I meant as they only get it once and you probably wont have to worry about it again. I am keeping and eye on them and right now they seem to be doing fine. If any of that changes we're back to the vets again. I plan on after the abscess are healed and gone, to get a check up for both horses just to make sure there healthy enough to be ridden. Then ask the vet what to do as riding wise. As I said I have never delt with this before I'm a first time dealer with strangles and I hope I never have to do it again. Not something you wanna wake up too lol.
     
    04-12-2012, 10:03 AM
  #8
Yearling
Your horses probably didn't enjoy waking up to it either. If my horses came back from the trainer's with strangles we'd be having words. But that wouldn't happen, because my horses get strangles vaccine every single year regardless of their age. We've never had a case. I don't view it as just "something horses get."

I realize that some people don't vaccinate because they are afraid that their horse will get strangles from the vaccine. My vet has told me that it's never happened in his practice. Those odds are good enough for me. Nothing is ever 100% safe. All I know is strangles are 100% miserable and there is a means of preventing the problem. My horses are off the farm at least once every single week and constantly exposed to other horses. Why take the risk?
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    04-12-2012, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by HagonNag    
Your horses probably didn't enjoy waking up to it either. If my horses came back from the trainer's with strangles we'd be having words. But that wouldn't happen, because my horses get strangles vaccine every single year regardless of their age. We've never had a case. I don't view it as just "something horses get."

I realize that some people don't vaccinate because they are afraid that their horse will get strangles from the vaccine. My vet has told me that it's never happened in his practice. Those odds are good enough for me. Nothing is ever 100% safe. All I know is strangles are 100% miserable and there is a means of preventing the problem. My horses are off the farm at least once every single week and constantly exposed to other horses. Why take the risk?

I didn't say I didn't get them vaccinated....... I just haven't done it this year. She got it yes, but it wasn't the trainers fault. She probably didn't know she had a horse who had it. Who knows it could have been my horse who brought it, therefor if it was anybody's fault it would have been mine. It's an accident that happens. She said she didn't have any horses showing any signs yet or before. So I am not sure of where my horse got it.
     
    04-12-2012, 12:02 PM
  #10
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Originally Posted by Baylen Jaxs    
I didn't say I didn't get them vaccinated....... I just haven't done it this year. She got it yes, but it wasn't the trainers fault. She probably didn't know she had a horse who had it. Who knows it could have been my horse who brought it, therefor if it was anybody's fault it would have been mine. It's an accident that happens. She said she didn't have any horses showing any signs yet or before. So I am not sure of where my horse got it.
What accident???

This is neglect on many levels.
     

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