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    03-13-2013, 12:13 PM
  #11
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Ditto Strangles is more common in younger horses, which is why everyone was shocked my 27 yr old ended up with it. He was a cast iron tough horse, never sick with anything.

Given his good health and that he lived on 40 acres, with my other two horses and the landowner's Black Angus, it was the last thing I expected.

I would imagine a horse getting Strangles at age 27 might be comparable to a human getting a full blown case of the Mumps. Childhood diseases are much more difficult to get thru for an adult

I absolutely had no way to isolate Sonny; amazingly, my other two horses never got Strangles from being exposed to him. One was 25, the other in her early teens.

This happened in 1987 and I am pretty sure I gave Sonny some sort of oral antibiotic. I don't think that is done today if it stays under the jowels. Yes? No?

I also had something medicated to clean him with twice daily.
     
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    03-13-2013, 12:32 PM
  #12
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Originally Posted by walkinthewalk    
Ditto Strangles is more common in younger horses, which is why everyone was shocked my 27 yr old ended up with it. He was a cast iron tough horse, never sick with anything.

Given his good health and that he lived on 40 acres, with my other two horses and the landowner's Black Angus, it was the last thing I expected.

I would imagine a horse getting Strangles at age 27 might be comparable to a human getting a full blown case of the Mumps. Childhood diseases are much more difficult to get thru for an adult

I absolutely had no way to isolate Sonny; amazingly, my other two horses never got Strangles from being exposed to him. One was 25, the other in her early teens.

This happened in 1987 and I am pretty sure I gave Sonny some sort of oral antibiotic. I don't think that is done today if it stays under the jowels. Yes? No?

I also had something medicated to clean him with twice daily.
It was 1991 when my mare got it. Our vet advised us not to give antibiotics until the abscess burst and then she was put on a high dose course. We kept the site flushed out and cleaned daily though I can't say that she ever showed any objection or discomfort in having this done. She was given painkillers and I'm sure that was why she recovered better as she managed to drink and eat very sloppy food almost like soup throughout. What amazed me was that it all healed leaving a barely visible scar.
A few of the horses on that yard got something like flu with snotty noses at the same time - I think maybe a milder attack and they then have an immunity?
     
    03-13-2013, 01:31 PM
  #13
Foal
When this outbreak happened at the barn I was boarding at neither of my horses got anything other than a little bit of a runny nose, and they were exposed to a gelding who had burst out in the pasture, the second to come down with it, nobody knew until it was too late, but only 4 horses got it, all under 5 years old, all vaccinated for it, and only the horse that I mentioned earlier came down with the ******* strangles.

I have also treated some nasty wounds, and the horses never became aggressive towards me or anyone else that needed to treat them. But I did not stay for hours every day constantly touching, rubbing, disinfecting, hosing, bandaging, etc. I made sure everything was quick and as painless as it could be. I think a lot would have to do with the horses personality and the how the owner was treating it.
     
    03-13-2013, 01:38 PM
  #14
Trained
I agree w all the ^^ posters. I have treated my own horse for strangles in the past, and assisted many others in the treating their horses. I have never seen or heard of it causing behavior changes after recovery.
     
    03-13-2013, 01:44 PM
  #15
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[QUOTE=jaydee;1935968]It was 1991 when my mare got it. Our vet advised us not to give antibiotics until the abscess burst and then she was put on a high dose course.I thought there was a "no antibiotics" rule somewhere

That's been so many years ago and so upsetting because I'd raised this horse from birth, that I purposely tried to forget the whole episode. I know there were oral antibiotics involved but, for the life of me, I cannot remember at what stage of the Strangles Sonny got them

We kept the site flushed out and cleaned daily though I can't say that she ever showed any objection or discomfort in having this done.Sonny was also great about that and I was glad I lived on an old country road, since that was the only place I had to put him for cleaning and lancing those horrid things. The pasture was directly across the road from my house and the vet didn't even want him in my yard

She was given painkillers and I'm sure that was why she recovered better as she managed to drink and eat very sloppy food almost like soup throughout. I'm pretty sure Sonny didn't get pain killers. I remember having to watch his appetite and I had to clorox his feed pan every time he ate. He didn't lose his appetite but he lost weight and never gained it back but, as I said earlier, I ended up losing him to cancer two years later.

What amazed me was that it all healed leaving a barely visible scar. For as nasty as those lumps were, I don't recall seeing visible scars, either. His hair grew back in a normal manner.
A few of the horses on that yard got something like flu with snotty noses at the same time - I think maybe a milder attack and they then have an immunity?I don't know about the immunity.

When I had that same vet out for something several months later, I commented that at least Sonny was now immune from Strangles.

He quietly commented "no he isn't". He could still get Strangles but most likely a much milder case.

I guess immunity depends on each horse, since my other two were very much exposed and never even got the sniffles.

They all stood side-by-side to eat from their feed pans twice a day. I did clorox all the pans after every meal as, by that time, my picture was beside "Super Paranoia" in the dictionary[/QUOTE]

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    03-13-2013, 01:53 PM
  #16
Yearling
I have no ida what caused it. But I do stand behind natural horsemanship fully, so I don't think that was the cause
     
    03-13-2013, 02:10 PM
  #17
Trained
[quote=walkinthewalk;1936066]--

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Originally Posted by jaydee    
It was 1991 when my mare got it. Our vet advised us not to give antibiotics until the abscess burst and then she was put on a high dose course.I thought there was a "no antibiotics" rule somewhere

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There is an unwritten "no antibiotics" rule. I have never used them during the illness, and those that I know that have all - w/o exception - had complication.
     
    03-16-2013, 05:48 PM
  #18
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Originally Posted by KylieHuitema    
I have no ida what caused it. But I do stand behind natural horsemanship fully, so I don't think that was the cause
I'm against inexperienced people who think they are experts because of NH. I've seen far too many just watch a DVD and think they can fix every problem horse.
     
    03-16-2013, 07:53 PM
  #19
Yearling
I don't consider Parelli a natural horsemanship kinda trainer.
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