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post #1 of 16 Old 03-26-2010, 09:58 PM Thread Starter
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Strangles??

Brought home a new mare on tuesday, she's currently in quarantine. She was exposed to strangles first week of february, had a fever and a small absess that drained. She appeared healthy when we picked her up. Yesterday I was clipping her and noticed she has an absess around the area her submandibular lymph nodes would be. It is rock hard and about the size of an egg. Had a friend here that has seen strangles before, and said it doesn't look like typical strangles onset, that the absess looked old. The mare has a normal temp, absolutely no nasal discharge, great appetite. Seems the lump is tender to touch though. I have called the vet, just waiting for a return call, but wanted some opinions from others that have actually dealt with strangles before.
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post #2 of 16 Old 03-26-2010, 10:49 PM
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I have never seen strangles but I have a mare that has rock hard nodes on the side of her neck.I was scared when I first noticed them but now she has had them for years and is fine. I do not know what they are - we do not have an equine vet in our area and will not let the local vet near any animal. I know this does not really help but I thought I would tell you.
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I have not seen that but just to be on the safe side you are doing the right thing by contacting a vet, even if it turns out to be nothing. Better to be safe than sorry.
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Yea this is definitely something the vet is going to have to look at. I've had horses for years and years and luckily I have never seen strangles, so I have nothing to compare to.
I had thought once they get strangles they build up an immunity to it, at least for a few years.
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Theres alot of that going around where I live, people are being very careful, I've heard once they've gotten it once, they are immune to it and never get it again. My coach's boyfriend hates the way "Heartland" has sent out strangles as a very very very bad sickness. If handled well its like a common fever. Though.. more.. gross-ish.

They develope those sore like things that are filled with puss and will leak and drip. I've seen it before. Looks SO gross. All I remember doing is keeping them clean, but yes, a vets help will work. :)
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We had a few cases of strangles go through the barn a few years ago. It's a complete pain! None of the horses that got it had the same symptoms. Some of them acted funny right away, one never got a temp or was off his feed, one had a lump on the bottom of his throat, one had one way up high, one lump was huge, one lump was small... The only common thing was the pus. I was thinking that once they get it they shouldn't get it again (like chicken pox). The ones that got it were horses that were younger and hadn't really traveled anywhere or been exposed to anything. Glad you put her in quarantine and called the vet!
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definitely strangles. Talked the the vet this morning, he didnt' come out, but said it sounds suspiciously like strangles. This afternoon I checked on her again and she has a tiny bit of yellowish watery drainage coming form the area. Its not actually broke open yet. I clipped her all the way down and cleaned it up. Then put some hot compresses on it. Her attitude is definitely perked up today as well. What I don't understand is why she is getting strangles again when she just had it a month ago. Or maybe she just actually never recovered? She's in sorry shape to begin with, very thin, so maybe just doens't have the immune response she outta have.

Also, should I be flushing out the absess when it does open up with an iodine or nolvasan solution?
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^^That sounds pretty right about her never having gotten over it. Our horses caught it a couple of years ago from a neighbor horse and of the 12 horses we have, only 3 of them actually showed symptoms. Koda took a couple of months to get all the way healed up. Just when I thought he was okay and healed, another lump would appear and break open. I am a thorough believer in letting a horse fight off an infection on their own if they can. I will clean it with cold water but not much else. That gives them a better chance to have a lot of antibodies for the future.

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Strangles is extremely contagious. You must wear a smock or other protective clothing when you area treating this patient. The exudate from the abscess is loaded with bacteria, and is easily transported to other horses by contact. Change your clothes including boots, and wash your hands very well after treating your patient. Keep ALL supplies, including grooming, separate. Boil wraps or any cloth used. Make sure you use a separate container for your waste materials. Leave the abscess alone as long as it is draining. Remember, the patient is still contagious for several days after the abcess stops draining.
Stay diligent in your efforts to keep the other horses disease free. It all depends on how you manage your situation from here on in. Good luck.
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Brought home a new mare on tuesday, she's currently in quarantine. She was exposed to strangles first week of february, had a fever and a small absess that drained. She appeared healthy when we picked her up. Yesterday I was clipping her and noticed she has an absess around the area her submandibular lymph nodes would be. It is rock hard and about the size of an egg. Had a friend here that has seen strangles before, and said it doesn't look like typical strangles onset, that the absess looked old. The mare has a normal temp, absolutely no nasal discharge, great appetite. Seems the lump is tender to touch though. I have called the vet, just waiting for a return call, but wanted some opinions from others that have actually dealt with strangles before.
Has she been seen by a vet since she was first diagnosed? That's the only new one you've found so far?

Because of the exposure I would get it checked or seen by a vet. Having said that tho, I have seen strangles on a few occasions and I have to agree it doesn't sound like a typical break out. My only concern is not every horse will present with the exact same kind of absess. I really think it would be a good idea to get her another full check by a qualified vet to make sure there isn't something else brewing on her.
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