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    04-22-2011, 11:47 PM
  #1
Yearling
Strangles Vaccine?

I can't decide if I should have the vet give my horse the Strangles Vaccine when he comes out to give Cody his other shots. It has been sugested that I should give it to him because there were a few outbreaks last year. We have 1 horse at our barn that goes off site to show, and she will have the vaccine. Cody and I wont be going off site with other horses (horses not from our barn) for another year. I talked to my riding instructor about it. She says that she doesn't give the Strangles vaccine to any of her horses, and not all of her boarders get it. She takes the show teams to shows off site threw out the intire summer, and none of her horses have come of with Strangles. I know that doesn't mean Cody wont get it though.

But I have talked to a vet, my riding instructor, the owner of my barn, and another boarder at there barn. I'v always been doing reasearch on it and so far I don't really want to give it to him. I feel the cons out weigh the pro's.

Since its a live vaccine, it has the chance of giving him Strangles instead of protecting him from it. And it also has the chance that it will turn on him and attack his imune system. He can also give them a fever and a runny nose etc....

But I know that its easier for Younger Horses to get Strangles, Cody is 6 years old, and has never been vacinated for Strangles before.

Whats your opinion on the vaccination?
     
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    04-23-2011, 01:41 AM
  #2
Green Broke
I don't know. That's a interesting question. I just had the vet out today to vaccinate my 9 month old colt for the first time (well, he did have a tetanus shot last year when he was gelded).

I just asked the vet what he needed and the only things he offered were the 4-way (tetanus, influenza and Eastern and Western Encephalmyaltis(sp?) and West Nile. He never even mentioned Strangles.

I did ask a good friend of mine about vaccinating for Strangles because she has owned a lot of young horses, and this colt is my first, and she said she has never vaccinated for Strangles nor has he ever had a horse come down with Strangles either.

So I dunno. You kind of have to weigh the benefits with the risks. It would bother me a little to give a vaccine that has a chance of making my horse sick. That would worry me too. But then again, when West Nile came out, there were all these horror stories associated with that vaccine too. And I ended up giving them the West Nile vaccine because we were having cases in our area.

So I understand your concerns. I guess ultimately, if it were me, I would go with what my vet recommended. I have faith in my vet that he knows what are the disease threats are in my area, and what he has been treating other horses for, so he should have an idea of what my horse needs and doesn't. So, if I thought I had a good vet, I would go with his/her recommendation.
     
    04-23-2011, 01:57 AM
  #3
Started
I think it depends on your area.

We had a Strangles outbreak in the area 4 yrs ago and one of the horses at the barn I was at had a scare...it wasn't strangles but man it looked like it. So ever since then I have gotten the vaccine for Phantom. Never had a problem with it (he's around 25 if it matters). Plus we are always going off the farm and at our shows it's not uncommon for people to buy a horse at an auction then ride it at the show the next day ~shakes head~ so I always make sure Phantom is UTD on EVERYTHING especially for show season.

I agree with trailhorserider your vet should know what's going on in the area and if he/she feels there is a risk they should reccomend it to you.
     
    04-23-2011, 02:16 AM
  #4
Green Broke
The strangles Vaccine was removed from the UK and European market because it was concidered dangerous. It was causeing more cases of strangles then it was preventing and horses who had had the vaccine seemed to have no more immunity then normal horses if not less (one yard where several horses had been vaccines and several hadnt and all the vaccinated horses went down with strangles, some of the unvaccinated did as well).

It was supposed to be a temporary withdrawl due to a quality issue, and they were supposed to bring a new batch in 3 to 4 months later. However I'm fairly sure they must have had thier licence yanked as it took well over 4 years for it to return.

I wil not give my ponies the vaccine even if they make it available over here.

I've also been told that Strangles is like chickenpox, when a horse has had it they don't get it again (not sure how true that is as I've had chicken pox 4 times!)
     
    04-23-2011, 02:26 AM
  #5
Green Broke
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I've also been told that Strangles is like chickenpox, when a horse has had it they don't get it again (not sure how true that is as I've had chicken pox 4 times!)
I've heard something similar to that as well- that it's better for them to get strangles when they are young so they have immunity when they are older. And that it is usually less serious when they are young vs. when they are older. But I don't know how true that is.

I would feel really aweful if I gave my horse something (vaccine, poor hay, whatever) and they got sick or died from it. I would always blame myself. But there are always risks in life. There are risks in vaccinating and there are risks in not vaccinating. But, if I thought the vaccine was risky, I think I would rather take my chances with the disease.
     
    04-23-2011, 06:17 AM
  #6
Weanling
My opinion, if there have been cases in your area, vaccinate.
I did my 4 year old for strangles this afternoon. There were a few times last year where there were outbreaks near my area and it's not something that I want too just rock up to my paddock and see him dying. At least with vaccinating him I know when it was done and I can watch for any symptoms. We don't really hear about the outbreaks as soon as they happen it's usually a week or so later. My cousins didn't vaccinate because they felt the pros/cons weren't that positive and they nearly lost one of their horses to it.
If there are horses at your barn that go off site then I would also vaccinate. They could carry it back and infect all the other horses.
The way I see it, I would rather spend $35 and give my horse a needle than have to spend hundreds in vet bills.
     
    04-23-2011, 08:27 AM
  #7
Green Broke
^^ agreed...it has shown up in my area as well so I've vaccinated every year since I've had my mare so about 3 years now. She has never had a side effect from the vaccine and has never contracted strangles. And I show her almost every weekend june through september.
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    04-23-2011, 08:28 AM
  #8
Green Broke
Oh and my old barn of 40 horses I used to board at had a breakout years ago before I boarded there so they started requiring it for all boarders after that. In the last 10 years or so no horse there has had any bad side effects or contracted strangles from the vaccine.
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    04-23-2011, 12:54 PM
  #9
Foal
My poor filly became deathly ill just a week or two after getting her first strangles vaccine :( She almost died, and she still has a slight rattle when she works hard as a result. She was on a super antibiotic several times a day and her fever was sky hi for weeks.
I would talk it out with your vet and only vet it if the risk for contracting it is high.
     
    04-23-2011, 01:54 PM
  #10
Weanling
Wow, I had no idea it could make my horse sick.. I asked the vet what shots he needed and if it was reccommended I got it. I board and we are always getting sale horses in and out and sometimes they are more a rescue situation. So Gunnar is vaccinated against anything optional... I know vaccines pose a threat to make them sick but I never knew strangles had such a negative history..A barn I leased a horse from got a horse with strangles and I just remember having to check each horse twice a day. It was a nightmare so I've always thought better safe than sorry..
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