Originally Posted by spirit88
Sounds like a leardership problem to me in heat or not in pain or not doesnt give them the right to lash out with teeth and hind feet. Simple fact is she has no respect for you
I agree there's likely a relationship issue, tho if it's pain related I think there can sometimes be an unthinking reactivity that can happen regardless of relationships. But my feeling is that sort of attitude is showing no respect or understanding to the horse - perhaps that's not how you meant it tho.
Horses are sentient beings too, not put on this earth to be innately submissive & obedient to our every beck & whim. They *always* give subtle signs/warnings before that sort of behaviour & if for whatever reason(conscious or not) humans ignore that, they have to find other ways to be more effective at getting their feelings across. Whether you see it as a 'right', how else can an animal like a horse 'shout' but with teeth & hooves??
Of course, in a good relationship, the human & horse 'respect' & understand *eachother* enough that it doesn't come to that. IMO I don't believe it should be a dictatorial relationship & if my horse 'aggressed' at me like that I'd be wondering what *I'd* missed & done wrong. Perhaps that's what you meant too, but talking about 'rights' regardless of circumstances sounds like you feel the horse is the one that's 'wrong' & deserving of punishment for his 'crime'.