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    01-12-2013, 02:39 AM
Ah hemorrhage that is the word I was needing earlier. I definitely see that being a possibility muppetgirl.
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    01-12-2013, 02:48 AM
Green Broke
I think maybe you should ask your vet to check for cancer, specifically abdominal cancer... I had an Appy mare... She was fine one day, the next day we got a call saying she was dead. Since I was too young I wasn't allowed to go see her for myself.. But I am told that she had been bleeding from the eyes, ears, nose mouth, etc.. Our vet finally figured it out, and said it was abdominal cancer... It ate into a blood vessel or artery, and she banged it around enough at some point that it burst, and she bled to death...
    01-12-2013, 02:53 AM
Green Broke
My mare the summer before she died:
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Her 29 days before she passed away, look at her abdominal region... HUGE, and we had thought it was just fat..
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    01-12-2013, 01:29 PM
Hmm. I never thought about cancer. Sorry for your loss! The thing that gets me is he was vet checked before (I have all my horses checked out every year) and he seemed in perfect health. He never acted sick, never took a lame step, nothing. And what gets me, I forgot to add, is he couldn't move his ears, close his eyes and his tongue just hung out of his mouth. And he was cold, really really cold.
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    01-12-2013, 01:52 PM
The bleeding and bloody diarrhea was probably because his body had used up all its clotting factors (Medical term is DIC- where the blood tries to clot so much that it uses up everything it needs, and then can't clot at all) and the coldness is one of the common signs of shock. Any time anything severe happens (bleeding, trauma, etc) shock can often follow and the body begins to shut down. As others have mentioned, an internal cancer could certainly have caused it, as could a twisted bowel or verminous arteritis, but without having a necropsy (animal autopsy) done, you may never know for sure.
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    01-12-2013, 01:56 PM
He was cold from the massive blood loss the facial paralysis sounds like a stoke or aneurism again but it way be a seizure from shock. Or from the massive hemorrhage clotting traveling through blood stream may have damaged spinal or brain function. Also cancer won't always show symptoms he could of had a large growing cancer ( which are cells that lose their ability to stop growth). It could of gotten bigger (benign) and bigger without it necessarily entering the blood stream or impeding health since it may have not spread via the blood stream (metastasized). It may have gotten so big and take up so much blood supply if disconnected or ruptured it would cause massive internal bleeding.
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    01-12-2013, 02:04 PM
Green Broke
He was a beautiful horse...sorry for your loss.
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    01-12-2013, 03:24 PM
Green Broke
This is very very sad. I am sorry for your loss. Not knowing would defiantly bug me too.
    01-12-2013, 05:29 PM
Originally Posted by Muppetgirl    
The more I mull this over, I am thinking a very significant internal a hepatic vascular issue.....some internal cancers can grow to quite a significant size before they interfere with anything.....and by the time they get so huge they can put pressure on organs and blood supply....massive hemorrhage is quite common in people with liver cancer (my dad passed from such a cancer) the same can occur in animals......

Im with this as my suspect also.. I had a 29yr old paint mare that had been scoped 3 different times before the vet found a tumor growing in her nasel and throat area I would walk out to the pasture and fine huge piles the size of a truck tire of blood The vet says as the tumor grew it pressed on vains and what not.. she got to the point where she started having trouble eating her hay so after many meds to try and shrink the tumor nothing worked and she was not a good canidate for surgery because of her age. We put her down 6 months after the nose bleeds started. I thank God everyday I got to spend those last 6 months with her, pampering and spoiling the HELL out of her. She was my partner for over 25 yrs.. Sorry for your loss.. you may never know the real answer but Im also leaning twards something going on internally.
    01-12-2013, 10:32 PM
I am so very sorry for your loss.
Were you thinking about getting a necropsy done? That will most likely give you the answer you are looking for. As for now, we can only guess.
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