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post #1 of 9 Old 03-25-2009, 12:55 AM Thread Starter
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Supplements question.

I have a question for you guys. I could probably look through the archives, but I don't know that I'd find a similar situation and I want to be sure so I can budget for it.

So I'm seriously considering (i.e, I don't intend to buy any other breed, unless I am SERIOUSLY convinced against it) buying an OTTB as my first horse. I know most of the issues with that idea, but if you'd like to talk about it, please message me! I don't mind talking about my reasons and such if it'd put your mind to rest. Anyways, the TB I'm currently eyeing is a 6yo Gelding. I need to call the lady to talk about him with her, so it's nothing more than my interest at the moment, but either way I'm sure I'm going to have some sort of issue similar when I buy an OTTB. The gelding had a chip removed from an ankle in the past, and has mild arthritis, but is sound and apparently you really can't tell. That's his only issue, and he's sound for all but jumping, and I just don't want to jump, so we're good to go.

But I'm still going to want to give him (or any other OTTB, really, I'm just saying 'him' because it's easier to refer to a single horse than the nebulous 'they', and he's been looking for a home for over a year now and hasn't found one, so if we talk and it looks good and she's happy with me, there's a good chance that I could buy him) supplements, to keep him happy and healthy for a long time. I know they might not be entirely neccessary, but unless they would harm him or not do any good, I do want to try it. My question is, do you think that these are all that I'm going to need?

- Omega Horseshine - Not only because I like a good, shiny horse, but I do intend to try his feet on barefoot, and it could help with his feet! If he's not one of the horses it doesn't work for, but we'll see.
- Cosequin powder - It has Chondroitin and Glucosamine, and I'm not entirely sure on the normal dosage, it seemed a little foggy from what I saw, but for mild arthritis and no jumping, no galloping, no OVERLY heavy work, I think I could get away with one scoop of it every time I came out, three times a week (or maybe two, but I'm going to shoot for three). Rather than one scoop a day. It would last a lot longer, and for mild athritis, I don't know that it would be neccessary to give the one scoop a day? Of course, I'd give it every day if he needed it!
- Electrolyte supplement - I would give it whenever I worked with him; the one I'm looking at tastes like orange and is apparently the most palatable. So that's good. Do you think it would need to be a daily type thing, though? I think it's only needed when you're working with them and they're sweating and such.

So you get a better idea, whatever horse I get, I'm going to take it as slow as the horse needs to. We'll build up those muscles to a level that it would be okay for me (definitely not jockey-sized) to ride him, get some chiro done, get his hooves boots and used to being barefoot...then after all of that, just light work for a while. I don't think we'll do too much during the summer; it's too bloody hot here to move! And I won't be able to seal any deal until May at earliest anyways, so, we'll be lucky to do anything by fall, I think? But when it starts cooling down, we'll pick it up a little bit, maybe start on some trails. So yeah. For that amount of work, will those supplements be okay? Do any of you have any suggestions on other ones I might use? Or if you have any suggestions as to the whole situation -- the horse, training, etc -- feel free to message me.

Thanks for your time!
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post #2 of 9 Old 03-25-2009, 02:02 AM
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I have two OTTB and i LOVE them, so shoot go for it girl! They are great and anyone who wants to take it on i encourage ...

As far as supplements i would recommend a hoof supplement(OTTB's normally have messed us feet- like they have contracted heals or shoes that are way too small for them or they have had shoes for so long that their feet are weak) as well as a multi vitamin one ... you will have to find what you want and what works best for your horse...

I also feed a diet of mixed grass hay and Strategy (with a bit of cobb because i like to spoil them)- I used to supplement alfalfa cubes in there too when my 5 yr old needed more weight.

Best of luck and lets see some pics!

:: Karley ::
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Ooh, go you! They really sound like the greatest little horses! Your status thingy -- you just got a new one? Congrats on that!

Ah, so you think a seperate hoof supplement would be a good thing? Okay, I'll definitely look into that. I'll also look at the multivitamins...that's a good idea. Yeah, I've heard that their feet can be horrible! I'm hoping that with the supplements I can keep his hooves in good shape though, I'd hate to have to use shoes! I really like the barefoot idea a lot.

The barn I hope to be using to board has a great feeding program, it sounded like to me. I don't remember the specifics, but it sounded great -- I'll remember the cubes if I end up getting a different horse than the one I'm looking at, though! The current interest baby is actually very healthy-weighted, as far as I can see!

Beltaire looks...great. He might be a little bit on the heavy side? I'm not sure, not experienced enough to define between "normal non-working, resting OTTB" and "Fat non-working, resting OTTB" yet, haha! He sure doesn't need any weight, though, as far as I can tell. I'm a little hesitant to put up pictures because I don't want the manager of the farm who's selling him to think I'm assuming I'm going to get him or anything...because I'm not, at all. I'm not sure she'll let me buy him. And /I/ need to know a little bit more about him before I make any decisions, so it's really just a 'maybe' right now...but I guess it doesn't hurt to share! His name is Beltaire, and he is SO handsome. He's not as sleek and tall and such as a lot of TBs, but that's probably a good thing. He's sturdy-looking, to me. And he has such a sweet face! Beltaire - NEEDS a Home. Price to GO! Bargain Barn Horse For Sale

Thank you so much!
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post #4 of 9 Old 03-25-2009, 09:35 AM
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Try a good ration balancer and the joint supplements the ration balancer is a good all around supplement that contains almost everything in the Horsehine, and the electrolyte plus has all the vitamins/minerals needed for good health :)

I have been called the NSC Nazi more then once ... I hate traditional feed methods of loading our horses up on grains and junk food :)
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A supplement will depend on what the horse is fed, what it does and what it NEEDS.

Please wait and see what he needs. IF he needs anything. A good feeding program and rule out the need for anything additional.
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Luna- he is cute and looks like he is at a good weight to me, kinda looks warmblood-ish to me and i love it!

I love that you are planning ahead, more people need to be like that.

Like MLS said knowing his diet will help determine what supplements he needs...

oh about the hoof stuff ... my 5 yr old had VERY moist hooves and we have spent a year and a half getting them to a good "hard" state- not too hard not too soft. I just took her back shoes off after a year and a half and my farrier thinks that we are in the clear to only have front shoes... sooo good luck! Don't get frustrated if it takes some time :)

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I use the Horseshine...excellent stuff. It seems to be helping his hooves too...and is touted to help arthritis as well. They have excellent customer service too. I had a bag rip in shipping and they sent me an entire new bag free or charge.

Never tried the Cosequin...but despite all the mumbo jumbo on the internet...all of those joint supplements give you about the same results.

Being in Alabama...I assume you get this nasty sticky heat as we do in east Texas. We use electrolytes in the summer only. Ours were apple flavored.
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A ration balancer, you say? I'll definitely go look into that! Thank you! :)

Oh yeah, I'm definitely going to wait to see what my horse needs...I'm just getting a general idea of what I might need to be doing. So I can budget for it; I'm not exactly going to be tight with money, but it's still good to know what I'm getting myself into. Heh!

Warmblood? That's cool! I for sure don't mind that...they're handsome animals! :) He looks like a handsome boy...I think I'm going to call about him on Monday, as much as I have a phone-phobia. Been trying to psyche myself up about it...not really working, but what must be done must be done, eh? ;) Ah, really? Yeah...I've heard that TBs can have some fun foot problems. I won't get impatient...I'm okay with keeping the shoes on for a while, I just want him to be healthy in the long run! I'm so glad your girl is finally maybe ready for both though -- that's awesome!

Wow, arthritis too? My goodness. I wonder just what they put in the stuff! :P Aww, that was awesome of them. But oh yeah, heh. Alabama is DISGUSTINGLY humid, if only as purely HOT as Texas was for a few weeks a year. At least in Texas we got some relief from the humidity when the skies decided to keep dry for a few months in a row...east Texas was pretty awesome though, all around. I do miss it. :)
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post #9 of 9 Old 03-28-2009, 08:49 PM Thread Starter
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Oh, and thank you guys all so much! Sorry it takes me a minute to respond, heh. Really, you're such a help! (sorry for the double, I have the attention span of a gnat)
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